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On 8/27/2015 9:04 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Nicolas George wrote:
>> There were the DVD drives by Matsushita, usually found on laptops, that did
>> refuse to return the encrypted contents if the region did not match.
> This sounds plausible, although i would heavily complain
> towards the seller if i ever found out. There is few chance
> i would step into this puddle when recording and reading
> own data.
>
> Any good keywords to search for ?
> All tries bring me to Macbook drives where it is hard to
> distinguish between hardware and software. Of course if Apple
> orders a shipload of drives with custom firmware add-ons,
> then Matsushita will probably produce them.
>
> There are whole online communities which have chosen
> DVD cheating as their favorite sport. Something about:
> "Matshita Flasher", a software without visible authorship,
> and "RPC-1 good, RPC-2 bad".
>
>
I don't know what this "DVD cheating" stuff is about.

RPC-1, it was intended that all playback software be licensed, licensed 
software had to honor the
region code. It was left up to the software to honor the region code or not.

RPC-2, commonly accessible software is available that does not care 
about region code settings.
Initialization was changed so software does not have access to the 
decryption functions if the
region code does not match taking the decision out of the hand of the 
player software.

People who only watch DVDs for their region will never notice the change.

On the one hand, maybe it sounds perfectly reasonable that the big movie 
producers should
be able to prevent playback of the larger percentage of DVD releases 
that people might want to
watch that do not and will never have a release for their region based 
on their desire to prevent
access to the smaller percentage of titles those big movie producers 
want to prevent access to before
those movies have been released for a region.

On the other hand, DVD drives are cheap these days, as far as I know you 
can still by a second drive
and set it to a different region code. One you have your backup copy 
region is no longer an issue
so you can make a DVD that will play from your media center, copy to 
your tablet, copy to a flash
stick and plug into the USB port on your TV or hardware based player, 
etc.... so in effect all the
change really accomplishes is to be an annoyance to those of us who 
really only care about being
able to play a DVD we actually paid for.

The people that produce a DVD and don't care about controlling access 
based on region*could* release
a DVD in unecrypted form, in which case region does not come into play, 
or set the disc as playable in
all regions.

I expect there are many DVD titles that are region restricted not 
because the producers of those
titles want to prevent playback in other regions, but because the 
producers had no plans on releasing
in another region and just never occurred them to think about the people 
who through the internet
or other means purchase DVDs from sources not in their region.

I had an Australian show I was watching and the final season did not air 
in the US, so it was purchased
on DVD, no mention of region restrictions, but turns out it was not set 
for playback in region 1.

On a marginally related but not relevant note, that was at a time when 
hooking a computer to a TV
was not so common, so a Windows desktop, a Linux desktop, and finally a 
laptop or 2 later I was able to
find a combination that would put out a refresh rate the TV would 
accept. Grrrr. ;)

Later, Seeker

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Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 09:10 +0200
  Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-27 10:30 +0200
    Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 11:50 +0200
      Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 12:30 +0200
        Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 13:10 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 13:40 +0200
            Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 15:40 +0200
        Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray ken <gebser@mousecar.com> - 2015-08-27 16:30 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 18:10 +0200
        Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-27 18:30 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 19:50 +0200
            Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 20:20 +0200
              Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-28 04:10 +0200
      Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-27 18:10 +0200
        Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 19:30 +0200
        Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 21:50 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-28 04:20 +0200
            Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:30 +0200
  Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2015-08-27 17:00 +0200
    Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 18:10 +0200
      Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> - 2015-08-27 20:40 +0200
        Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 21:50 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 03:00 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> - 2015-08-28 07:30 +0200
            Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:40 +0200
              Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> - 2015-08-29 08:10 +0200
        Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-27 22:20 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "T.J. Duchene" <t.j.duchene@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 00:20 +0200
            Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2015-08-28 11:00 +0200
              Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray "T.J. Duchene" <t.j.duchene@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 01:40 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2015-08-28 04:20 +0200
          Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> - 2015-08-28 07:50 +0200
  Hh "T.J. Duchene" <t.j.duchene@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 23:50 +0200

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