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Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid!

From	Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid!
Date	2019-01-15 11:13 -0800
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On 2019-01-15 10:03 a.m., arlen holder wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 18:20:28 -0800, Alan Baker wrote:
> 
>> And what does it matter if you need an Apple ID, twit boy?
> 
> I love your fifth-grade vocabulary Alan Baker.

Which word is "fifth-grade", "Arlen".

Note the proper usage of the comma in my sentence in contrast with 
yours, twit boy.

> 
> I don't ever have to prove you own the mind of a child, Alan Baker.
> Everything you post proves that for me.
>   
>> No. Creating an Apple ID doesn't cost you any privacy.
> 
> You Apple Apologists, Alan Baker, prove to own the mind of a child.
> No amount of fact will shake you from your religiously held beliefs.
> 
> Worse, Alan Baker, is that you have ZERO facts to back up your claims.

It's your claim, "Arlen". Support it.

What privacy is given up?

> 
> You iOS Apologists consistently...
> o Prove to be children in _everything_ you post, and,
> o You prove to hold strong religious-like convictions
> o And yet, you can't provide a single fact to back up any of your claims
> 
> HINT: Why do you _think_ Apple REQUIRES that Apple ID, Alan Baker?
> DOUBLEHINT: What do you think happens to EVERY APP Alan Baker?

Question: how does Apple requiring an AppleID...

Where you can make up every detail contained therein.

...in any way impact one's privacy.

> 
> What's amazing about you iOS apologists is that you're incredibly ignorant,
> and yet, you continually hold very strong dogmatic beliefs.
> 
> Your mind is not that of a  adult, Alan Baker.
> Your mind is that of a child, Alan Baker.
> 
>> And yet you've provided no examples...

You're the one who needs to provide the examples to support your claim.

> 
> Hehhehheh ... the biggest weakness of all Apolostists ... are facts.
> You are no exception in your allergic response to facts, Alan Baker.
> 
> I provided _plenty_ of examples here, Alan Baker:
> o What is the factual truth about PRIVACY differences or similarities between the Android & iOS mobile phone ecosystems?
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/FCKRA_3i9CY>
> o What was the YouTube example, Alan Baker?

That's not an example.

> o What was the AddressToGPS example, Alan Baker?

Nor is that.

> o What was the IDE sideloading example, Alan Baker?

Nor that.

> o On iOS you _must_ have an Apple ID - you don't need it on Android

But you can make up anything you like for that ID.

> o On iOS you _must_ have all your apps tagged - none need it on Android

But you can make up your AppleID, so...

> o On iOS you _must_ have an ADVERTISING ID - you don't need it on Android
> o On iOS, you don't even have the sanctioned Tor browser for heavens' sake

What in the world is the "sanctioned browser"? Sanctioned by whom, twit boy?

> o On iOS, you don't can't download an app to find hidden or miscreant IMSIs, Cameras, APs, etc.
> etc.

No. You have a whole app store system dedicated to weeding them out 
before you ever get to them.

> 
> HINT: All those privacy enhancements are easily obtained, for free, on
> Android, while NONE of those privacy enhancements are available on iOS.
> 
> Do you dispute those facts, Alan Baker?

You haven't presented facts.

You've presented ASSERTIONS without offering any proof.

> On what factual grounds do you dispute each and every one of those facts?
> 
> I realize you're allergic to clicking on factual links, Alan Baker.
> That's because all you have are nonsensical religious convictions.
> 
> You're a child, Alan Baker.
> A little sniveling whiny idiotic ignorant child.
> 
> I don't have to prove that, Alan Baker.
> You prove you own the mind of a child by what you post, Alan Baker.
> 
> Facts don't fit in your religiously held imaginary belief system.
> 
> The fact is that there are PLENTY of privacy-leaking apps on iOS that you
> just can't avoid, while all the examples above show that, on Android, you
> can avoid them and still have the desired funcdtionality.
> 
> I realize you're a child, Alan Baker.
> Hence, I realize those facts will be lost on you Alan Baker.
> 
> But the fact you can't comprehend facts doesn't make facts not facts.
> 
>> And what are some of these situations?
> o What is the factual truth about PRIVACY differences or similarities between the Android & iOS mobile phone ecosystems?
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/FCKRA_3i9CY>
> o What was the YouTube example, Alan Baker?
> o What was the AddressToGPS example, Alan Baker?
> o What was the IDE sideloading example, Alan Baker?
> o On iOS you _must_ have an Apple ID - you don't need it on Android
> o On iOS you _must_ have all your apps tagged - none need it on Android
> o On iOS you _must_ have an ADVERTISING ID - you don't need it on Android
> o On iOS, you don't even have the sanctioned Tor browser for heavens' sake
> o On iOS, you don't can't download an app to find hidden or miscreant IMSIs, Cameras, APs, etc.
> etc.
> 
> HINT: All those privacy enhancements are easily obtained, for free, on
> Android, while NONE of those privacy enhancements are available on iOS.
> 
> Do you dispute those facts, Alan Baker?
> On what factual grounds do you dispute each and every one of those facts?

You said all that again...

> 
>>
>>>
>>> Everything depends on how much you weigh each of the facts, where I already
>>> presented at least a dozen situations where Android privacy is far better
>>> than that of iOS.
>>
>> No. You really haven't.
> 
> I realize you, Alan Baker, simply dismiss, out of hand, actual facts.
> And yet, you, Alan Baker, _never_ provide any facts to back up your claims.
> 
> I also realize, Alan Baker, you don't even _click_ on the links provided.
> To you, Alan Baker, facts are for adults - not for children like you.
> 
> However, the fact that you, Alan Baker, own the mind of a child
> doesn't change that the facts we provided are valid facts.
> 
> The fact you Apologists hold on to a religious belief system
> doesn't change that facts are still facts.
> 
> It just means Apologists, like you, Alan Baker, own the mind of a child.
> 
> o What is the factual truth about PRIVACY differences or similarities between the Android & iOS mobile phone ecosystems?
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/FCKRA_3i9CY>
> o What was the YouTube example, Alan Baker?
> o What was the AddressToGPS example, Alan Baker?
> o What was the IDE sideloading example, Alan Baker?
> o On iOS you _must_ have an Apple ID - you don't need it on Android
> o On iOS you _must_ have all your apps tagged - none need it on Android
> o On iOS you _must_ have an ADVERTISING ID - you don't need it on Android
> o On iOS, you don't even have the sanctioned Tor browser for heavens' sake
> o On iOS, you don't can't download an app to find hidden or miscreant IMSIs, Cameras, APs, etc.
> etc.
> 
> HINT: All those privacy enhancements are easily obtained, for free, on
> Android, while NONE of those privacy enhancements are available on iOS.
> 
> Do you dispute those facts, Alan Baker?
> On what factual grounds do you dispute each and every one of those facts?

And a third time.

> 
> HINT: I've studied you Apologists for years - facts are your greatest
> weakness simply because your entire belief system is purely religious.

Says the man who comes off like a zealot with every post.

:-)
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