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Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns

From David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.networking, alt.os.linux
Subject Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns
Date 2018-12-19 09:22 +0100
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On 19/12/18 04:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 18/12/2018 23.15, Paulo da Silva wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I successfully configured my thunderbird (TB) for gmail pop3 access.
>> However I have a doubt.
>>
>> Authentication method has different choices (I am translating from PT -
>> they may not exactly correspond to real English TB locale):
>>
>> Normal password
>> Encrypted password
>> Kerberos/GSSAPI
>> NTLM
> 
> Forget it.
> 
> When using Thunderbird (with gmail) just tell the wizard your mail
> address and lets the automatics figure out the rest. Actually
> Thunderbird knows how to configure gmail (has a database) without you
> telling it how, and uses the best known settings.
> 

Automatic configuration by Thunderbird is by far the best choice.

But you make it sound like it is done in a secret way, or by magic.  It
is done by reading a URL from an address constructed from the email
address - this returns a simple configuration file detailing the
settings, server address, etc.  Many big email providers (and some small
ones - we have it for our company email) have a webserver responding to
this URL so that email can be configured "automagically" with
Thunderbird.  The process is not particularly well documented and
publicised, but it is not hidden and it works nicely.  Once you have
used automatic setup for your email, you can easily look at the settings
as normal.

> The result will be imap and oauth2.
> 

This is key - you use IMAP, not POP3.  I don't know if the OP
understands the difference, but the vital point is that with IMAP, the
messages and folder structure remain on the server so that all clients -
Thunderbird on multiple machines, gmail, webmail, etc., - all see the
same email.  With POP3 the emails are generally pulled off the server
and deleted.

> 
> 
>> Why do I need to enable in gmail "less secure apps"? What does this mean?
> 
> Thunderbird in oauth2 mode does not need you enable in gmail
> configuration the misnamed "enable less secure apps". Other tools may
> need that setting.
> 
> 
> 

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Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Paulo da Silva <p_s_d_a_s_i_l_v_a_ns@netcabo.pt> - 2018-12-18 22:15 +0000
  Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-12-18 23:20 +0100
    Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Paulo da Silva <p_s_d_a_s_i_l_v_a_ns@netcabo.pt> - 2018-12-19 17:47 +0000
  Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-12-18 15:44 -0700
  Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-19 04:52 +0100
    Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-19 09:22 +0100
      Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-19 12:10 +0100
    Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Paulo da Silva <p_s_d_a_s_i_l_v_a_ns@netcabo.pt> - 2018-12-19 17:58 +0000
      Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-12-19 12:35 -0600
      Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-19 22:47 +0100
      Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-12-19 16:52 -0700
        Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-20 04:23 +0100
          Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-12-19 20:34 -0700
  Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Paulo da Silva <p_s_d_a_s_i_l_v_a_ns@netcabo.pt> - 2018-12-19 18:05 +0000
    Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-19 22:51 +0100
  Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Paulo da Silva <p_s_d_a_s_i_l_v_a_ns@netcabo.pt> - 2018-12-20 16:49 +0000
    Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-20 19:20 +0100
    Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-12-20 21:28 -0700
      Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-21 09:58 +0100
        Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-12-21 10:16 -0700
          Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-12-21 19:17 +0100
            Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-12-21 12:14 -0700
              Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-12-22 08:55 +0100
                Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-12-22 16:17 -0700
                Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-12-22 23:28 -0500
                Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Robert Nichols <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> - 2018-12-23 07:50 -0600
                Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-12-23 08:39 -0600
            Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-22 00:05 +0100
              Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-12-21 18:28 -0700
                Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-22 04:24 +0100
              Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-12-22 08:50 +0100

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