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Re: _mingw_off_t.h

From David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: _mingw_off_t.h
Date 2018-11-27 15:28 +0100
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On 27/11/18 14:54, Malcolm McLean wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 1:39:34 PM UTC, David Brown wrote:
>> On 27/11/18 13:48, Malcolm McLean wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 12:19:12 PM UTC, bart...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A typical x64 assembler supports these 5 basic storage types:
>>>>
>>>>     db 0     # 1 byte
>>>>     dw 0     # 2 bytes
>>>>     dd 0     # 4 bytes
>>>>     dq 0     # 8 bytes
>>>>     do 0     # 16 bytes
>>>>
>>>> They can define initialised static data for i8/16/32/64/128,
>>>> as well as u8/16/32/64/128, f32/64/128, plus for arrays of those types,
>>>> and structs using those types.
>>>>
>>>> Now /that/ is simple.
>>>>
>>> Very few counts of objects in the real world go above 2^64. 128 bit
>>> integers are for special use, and we can forgive a bit of fiddliness,
>>> such as providing them via a struct and a library. 
>>>
>>> So we've got four sizes, 8, 16, 32 and 64 bits. There's signed and
>>> unsigned, and you need unsigned 8 bit values. But a signed 16 bit
>>> type will hold values that go up to 32767. Unsigned gives values
>>> up to 65535. So for unsigned to make sense, you need a number that
>>> can go above 32767, but not above 65535, and where just using 43
>>> bits isn't a sensible option. That's quite a narrow use case, examples
>>> might be fixed-point representation of real numbers (so not really
>>> integers) and amounts of memory in machines with 64 kilobytes installed.
>>> Is that enough to justify an unsigned type? Similar arguments 
>>> apply to 32 and 64 bits.
>>>
>>> The other reason for using unsigned is to document that a number is
>>> naturally a non-negative, e.g. a count of employees. But this is poor
>>> practice because intermediate calculations involving values like that
>>> often can go negative.
>>>
>>> So really we need five types
>>>
>>> 8 bit signed, 8 bit unsigned, 16 bit, 32 bit, 64 bit signed.
>>>
>>> the fixed point case can be solved by changing the semantics of the
>>> bit masking and shifting operations. 
>>>
>>
>> Now who has a "worm's eye view" of the world?
>>
> You haven't understood what Kenny was saying.

To quote from his later post:

"Yep.  It is amazing how much this group self-selects for people who are
just obsessed with minutiae and are totally unable to see the big picture."

You have worm's eye view.  You see C purely in terms of how /you/ want
to use it for /your/ programs on /your/ systems - you fail to see how
other people use it for other programs on other systems.  You fail to
recognise that maybe other people have different needs or wants than
your own.

So let me again stress that it is /fine/ for you, Malcolm, to write "/I/
only need five types of integers".  It is /not/ fine for you to write
"/you/ only need five types of integers", or "/we/ only need five types
of integers", or "/C/ only needs five types of integers".

>>
>> If five types are enough for you, then use just those five types in your
>> programming.  But please do not imagine that your limited usage is
>> representative of how others want to use C.
>>
> I've given you an argument why five types are enough. 

You have given a rather vague description about why /you/ don't need
more integer sizes and signednesses than the ones you like.  It provides
no useful reasoning why anyone would need the types you want, and no
useful reasoning why anyone would want additional types /not/ to exist.
 I can't see anything in what you wrote that could not be satisfied with
just two types - signed 64-bit and unsigned 8-bit (which you state is
necessary, without justification).  And there is not the slightest
indication of why you don't want other people to have the sizes and
types they might want to have.

And all your post is about the size and signedness of basic types.  The
discussion, however, was about /other/ integer types - those which in C
are derived as aliases of the fundamental types.  There is nothing about
why people may or may not want size_t, ptrdiff_t, fpos_t, or whatever else.

So no, you haven't given much of an argument about anything.

> Now you seem to
> believe that "that may be true for you, but don''t try to claim
> it's true for anyone else". That's an amazingly common position to
> take, and of course it is nonsense.
>

Are you trying to suggest that you really do speak for the C programming
community at large with these posts?  Are you telling me I am talking
nonsense when I say I have use for signed and unsigned types from 8-bit
up to 64-bit, or when I say I use a variety of other integer types (some
standard, some application-specific)?

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_mingw_off_t.h bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 14:38 -0800
  Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 03:19 -0800
    Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-26 12:48 +0100
    Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-11-26 13:29 +0000
      Re: _mingw_off_t.h Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2018-11-26 22:02 +0800
        Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-11-26 16:09 +0000
        Re: _mingw_off_t.h bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 09:11 -0800
      Re: _mingw_off_t.h bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 06:34 -0800
      Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 06:39 -0800
        Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-11-26 16:06 +0000
          Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 09:01 -0800
            Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-26 17:04 +0000
              Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 09:19 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-26 22:19 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 14:11 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-27 00:29 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-11-27 09:44 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 01:49 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 04:21 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 04:25 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 04:51 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-11-27 13:19 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-11-26 17:26 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-27 08:16 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 04:18 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 04:48 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 05:09 -0800
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 05:54 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-27 15:28 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 06:58 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-27 15:03 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 07:13 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-27 16:55 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 09:02 -0800
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-28 15:06 +0000
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-28 17:56 +0000
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-12-02 22:04 +0000
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-30 15:20 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-29 14:54 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 06:03 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-29 16:09 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-29 16:44 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-29 22:08 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-29 22:29 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-30 10:27 +0100
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-11-30 01:49 -0800
                "real" programming langauges? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-12-01 08:18 +0000
                Re: "real" programming langauges? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-01 18:02 +0100
                That time back in 1987... (Was: "real" programming langauges? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h)) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-12-01 17:31 +0000
                Re: That time back in 1987... (Was: "real" programming langauges? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h)) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-02 13:03 +0100
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                Re: That time back in 1987... (Was: "real" programming langauges? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h)) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-03 11:38 +0100
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                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-27 14:11 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 06:28 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-27 15:14 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 07:41 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-11-27 16:11 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-11-29 10:00 -0800
            Re: _mingw_off_t.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-11-26 17:24 +0000
              Re: _mingw_off_t.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:57 -0800
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-26 19:06 +0000
                Re: _mingw_off_t.h bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 12:16 -0800
  Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-26 12:52 +0100
    Re: _mingw_off_t.h bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 04:17 -0800
      Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-26 14:40 +0100
    What is wrong with this sentence? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-11-26 13:34 +0000
      Re: What is wrong with this sentence? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h) Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2018-11-26 16:39 +0300
        Re: What is wrong with this sentence? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h) bart4858@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 06:13 -0800
          Re: What is wrong with this sentence? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-26 16:13 +0100
      Re: What is wrong with this sentence? (Was: _mingw_off_t.h) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-26 14:42 +0100
    Re: _mingw_off_t.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-11-26 13:02 -0800
      Re: _mingw_off_t.h David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-11-26 22:24 +0100
  Re: _mingw_off_t.h scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-26 14:38 +0000

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