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Re: "The cat is both dead and alive" is PhD (high and Deep) bullshit.

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics, comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.checkmate
Subject Re: "The cat is both dead and alive" is PhD (high and Deep) bullshit.
Date 2018-11-24 23:40 +0000
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID <ptcnhu$1rar$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink)
References <ptci8i$1jip$1@gioia.aioe.org> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.24--2.30pm.Seattle.2018>

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<Jeff-Relf.Me  @.> wrote:
> Odd_Bodkin replied:
>>> What interpretation of quantum mechanics says
>>> the cat is both dead and alive ?
>>> " Shut up and calculate " makes no such assumptions, right ?
>> 
>> Measurements say it’s real. 
>> This isn’t about interpretation. 
> 
> "The lack of measurement" is real, you mean;
> it is not known if the cat is dead or alive because 
> it's in a "box" ( the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle ).

The measurement is there. Note that you are PRESUMING the “hidden
variables” that are not in fact measured. How is it that you claim those
conditions are in fact there to be measured though they resist measurement?

> 
> "The cat is both dead and alive" is PhD (high and Deep) bullshit.
> 

And you know this how, exactly? 
Don’t tell me what you belief without basis. Tell me the basis for your
belief in these hidden variables.  



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Scientists could improve their game ( qBism [cubism] ). Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-11-24 11:52 -0800
  Re: Scientists could improve their game ( qBism [cubism] ). Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 20:03 +0000
    The cat is both dead and alive ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-11-24 12:20 -0800
      Re: The cat is both dead and alive ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 22:10 +0000
        "The cat is both dead and alive" is PhD (high and Deep) bullshit. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-11-24 14:30 -0800
          Re: "The cat is both dead and alive" is PhD (high and Deep) bullshit. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 23:40 +0000
            We're not AllSeeing, AllKnowing gods. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-11-24 18:02 -0800

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