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Re: Way Back When

From Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Way Back When
Date 2018-11-05 21:26 -0800
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID <prr8mg$1hls$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink)
References <021120181121292358%star@sky.net> <prr7ri$1gf3$1@gioia.aioe.org> <prr7u4$1gim$1@gioia.aioe.org>

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On 2018-11-05 9:13 PM, Your Name wrote:
> On 2018-11-06 05:12:18 +0000, Alan Baker said:
>> On 2018-11-05 6:15 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>> On 2018-11-05 20:37:01 +0000, Alan Baker said:
>>>> On 2018-11-05 12:18 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-11-05 19:47:33 +0000, Alan Baker said:
>>>>>> On 2018-11-05 11:42 AM, Your Name wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2018-11-05 19:07:41 +0000, John Varela said:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 05:13:45 UTC, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2018-11-05 03:13:18 +0000, John Varela said:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 21:41:15 UTC, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-6Fd5ZtZ5ez1z@localhost>, John 
>>>>>>>>>>> Varela
>>>>>>>>>>> <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bought a new car recently? Mine came with 780 semi-mouse 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> print pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spread among 5 volumes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good effin' luck trying to find how to turn dozens of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> electronic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> features on, off or calibrate them; when to change the oil; 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the clock tor daylight saving; program the radio or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> link up your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, etc., etc....
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subaru presents one manual for each model.  It covers every 
>>>>>>>>>>>> trim
>>>>>>>>>>>> line and optional feature.  For something as simple as 
>>>>>>>>>>>> resetting the
>>>>>>>>>>>> clock there will be instructions for several different 
>>>>>>>>>>>> versions,
>>>>>>>>>>>> each qualified "(if equipped)".  We go off of Daylight 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Savings Time
>>>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow morning, and I am going to have to look it up yet 
>>>>>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> that's incredibly poorly design.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sure enough, I had to look it up again in the manual.  The 
>>>>>>>>>> index has
>>>>>>>>>> an entry for "clock" so I went to page 3-35 as instructed.  
>>>>>>>>>> It turns
>>>>>>>>>> out that the instructions for this car are described under the
>>>>>>>>>> multi-function display, on page 3-49.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ahhh, the joys of technology for the sake of it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The digital clock on my car is in the middle of the driver's 
>>>>>>>>> instrument
>>>>>>>>> cluster (between the speedo and rev counter dials. To change it 
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> simply reach through the steering wheel to turn a small knob 
>>>>>>>>> clockwise
>>>>>>>>> or counter-clockwise to adjust it, keep holding it in that 
>>>>>>>>> direction
>>>>>>>>> and the time ticks up / down by 1 minute until you let go.  
>>>>>>>>> :-)  I
>>>>>>>>> don't think the car's radio / cassette player (yes a cassette tape
>>>>>>>>> system) has a clock - it displays the radio frequency.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if my mother's much newer car adjusted the time 
>>>>>>>>> itself or
>>>>>>>>> if she had to do it via the touchscreen menu system of her car's
>>>>>>>>> infotainment screen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Subaru is my wife's car and if she had to reset the clock
>>>>>>>> herself it would never happen.  This year I wised up and annotated
>>>>>>>> the index with the desired page number and also dog-eared that 
>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My car is similar to yours, in having a real clock, not one built
>>>>>>>> into a multi-function display.  My clock has an analog dial placed
>>>>>>>> smack in the middle of the dashboard, with two buttons: one to
>>>>>>>> advance the hands and one to reverse them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I dislike analogue clocks, even worse when they're in a car ... 
>>>>>>> you meant to be driving, not spending "10 minutes" trying to 
>>>>>>> figure out where the big hand and little hand are pointing. 
>>>>>>> Digital clocks are much easier and quicker to read.  :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please tell me the smiley means you're kidding.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, it's not a winking smiley ... digital clocks *are* quicker 
>>>>> and eaiser to read than analogue clocks. Digital clocks also take 
>>>>> up less space (of course that depends on the design of both types 
>>>>> of clock).
>>>>
>>>> No. They're quicker MAYBE if you need to know the time to the exact 
>>>> minute... ...but if you just need to know what most of us need to 
>>>> know, analog is faster.
>>>
>>> Whatever you want to delude yourself into believing.  :-\
>>
>> Sorry, but I have the facts to back me up.
> 
> Whatever you want to delude yourself into believing.
> 
> And nother argumentative braindead moron joins my kilfile.

What was my "argumentativeness", exactly: that I disagreed with you, 
little snowflake?

:-(

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    Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-03 21:00 +0000
      Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-03 21:17 +0000
        Re: Way Back When Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-03 15:29 -0700
          Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-03 22:55 +0000
            Re: Way Back When Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-03 18:15 -0700
              Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-04 08:47 +0000
                Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-04 12:55 -0500
                [OT] Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-05 08:12 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-05 01:45 -0800
                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-05 13:42 +0000
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                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-05 17:47 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-05 12:14 -0800
                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-05 20:46 +0000
  Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-03 09:28 +1300
    Re: Way Back When Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2018-11-02 18:35 -0400
      Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-03 21:06 +0000
        Re: Way Back When nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-03 17:41 -0400
          Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-05 03:13 +0000
            Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-05 18:13 +1300
              Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-05 19:07 +0000
                Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-06 08:42 +1300
                Re: Way Back When Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-05 11:47 -0800
                Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-06 09:18 +1300
                Re: Way Back When Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-05 12:37 -0800
                Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-06 15:15 +1300
                Re: Way Back When Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-05 21:12 -0800
                Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-06 18:13 +1300
                Re: Way Back When Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-05 21:26 -0800
                Re: Way Back When John <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-05 18:47 -0800
                Re: Way Back When Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-06 10:16 +0000
                Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-06 08:12 -0500
                Re: Way Back When nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 15:44 -0400
                Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-06 14:57 +0000
                [OT] Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-06 15:10 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-07 16:27 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-08 14:15 +1300
                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-11-07 18:16 -0800
                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-07 22:52 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-07 21:22 -0800
                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-08 18:28 +1300
                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:33 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-08 02:48 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-08 18:26 +1300
                Re: Way Back When Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> - 2018-11-07 08:41 -0800
                Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-07 18:38 +0000
                Re: Way Back When Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-11-07 15:41 -0800
                Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-08 10:26 +1300
                Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-07 22:10 +0000
                Re: Way Back When Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-08 07:06 +0000
                Re: Way Back When Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2018-11-09 19:13 -0500
                Re: Way Back When nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 14:55 -0400
                Re: Way Back When Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-05 15:48 -0800
                Re: Way Back When Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-06 10:14 +0000
                Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-06 08:22 -0500
                Re: Way Back When Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> - 2018-11-06 07:02 -0800
                Re: Way Back When Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2018-11-06 13:54 -0500
                Re: Way Back When Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-07 09:26 +0000
                Re: Way Back When Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2018-11-07 05:34 -0800
                Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-06 15:41 +0000
        Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-04 14:28 +1300
    Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-04 14:01 -0500
      Re: Way Back When Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-11-04 17:00 -0500
        Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-05 08:44 -0500
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    Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-05 09:18 -0500
      Re: Way Back When Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-05 07:33 -0800
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