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Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology
Date 2018-11-04 00:18 +0000
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benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/3/2018 4:55 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/2/2018 6:38 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/2/2018 11:42 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 6:45:48 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 3:28:26 PM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 5:23:21 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 8:55:57 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 7:18:47 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 4:09:33 PM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 3:31:23 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 7:58:18 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 4:59:53 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 9:13:08 AM UTC-7, Koobee Wublee wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 11:49:31 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 8:27:34 PM UTC-7, Koobee Wublee wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let’s inquire the Einstein dingleberries if asking for a hypothesis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to support an experimental result is too much to ask.  Does SR satisfy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the null results of the MMX?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Learn physics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Done just that.  <shrug>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I cannot teach you here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Koobee Wublee does not expect the queer of England who is a worshipper of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mysticism and bullshit to teach physics.  <shrug>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lying about your opponents is not a valid debating strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as "mysticism", you should study the history of electrodynamics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometime and see how Maxwell's theory introduced MANY problems (despite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its obvious general success), esp. regarding reconciliation of "light
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as waves in aether" with "light as E and B fields satisfying Maxwell's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equations".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The two turned out to be EXTREMELY HARD to reconcile. One
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the big problems was that in Maxwell's theory E and B fields in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an electromagnetic wave must be transverse while all aether theories
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowed longitudinal components. So people started inventing all sorts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of "mystic" or "ad hoc" requirements that aether had to obey in order
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get rid of the longitudinal components. Here is a partial list of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who worked on JUST this one detail: Navier, Poisson, Cauchy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Green, Neumann, Lamé, Lord Rayleigh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This interpretation is wrong. A structured aether such as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E-Matrix can indeed transmits light transversely and isotropically.....no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longitudinal component involved. The paper in the following link shows this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interpretation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2015experiment.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing in this paper that supports your claim. It's FAPP all English
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prose. You need to discuss the relevant mathematical models in *full detail*,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise it’s just speculation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I proposed a physical model of our universe that can explain all observations.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you've just written a fantasy.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Less fantasy than field and virtual particles.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You don't even understand "field" and "virtual particles",
>>>>>>>>>> so how would you know? And in general, designating something you know
>>>>>>>>>> nothing about as “fantasy" is not going to lead you anywhere.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I know what Weinberg say about the field in his book and that the
>>>>>>>>> excitation of the field is the force messenger the boson. It is
>>>>>>>>> probably that you don’t understand “field” and “virtual particle” and
>>>>>>>>> you are trying to bullshit me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You have to understand what those words actually mean (in full technical
>>>>>>>> detail, otherwise you cannot form a valid opinion).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It appears that you have no understanding of those words.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ken’s mantra: Words mean what I say they mean. I don’t need to read books
>>>>>> or listen to physicists about what the words mean. Everything that
>>>>>> physicists say and everything in books is wrong.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know about books and physicists, but pretty much everything you
>>>>> say is wrong, Odd. Defining words to mean what you say they mean (like
>>>>> say "wave" or "medium") is your idea of science. Obviously that is not
>>>>> science but "philosopher" territory.
>>>> 
>>>> Language is determined by the community in their context of usage. If you
>>>> don’t like the community’s usage, then you will fall out of communication
>>>> with them.
>>> 
>>> Translation: I'm a leftly lib and in MY world whenever I have a fantasy,
>>> I know that it becomes reality for everyone else!
>> 
>> I think you just illustrated your loss of communication.
>> 
>> What’s really fun, though, is your attachment to the past. The way you
>> insist that the definitions you hold are the ones you were taught six
>> decades ago, and by golly, that should be good enough for anybody—why, it’s
>> so quaint!
> 
> Yeah I went to school with Galileo. He was such a fun guy and a snappy 
> dresser too like all Italians! What you don't (can't) understand is that 
> Galileo created the theory of relativity which is still true to this 
> day! If you weren't so determined to remain ignorant you'd know that 
> relativity can be proved using no more than Galilean relativity without 
> using any assumptions such as the constant speed of light.

And when you use that proven relativity to electrodynamics, voila, constant
speed of light. 

> 
> You ignorance is amazing but your determination to remain ignorant is 
> positively pathological!
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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    Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-27 08:04 -0700
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            Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 16:19 +0000
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                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 20:03 +0000
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                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-02 00:52 +0000
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    Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-27 11:23 -0700
    Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 14:41 -0700
      Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 19:21 -0700
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            Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 09:11 -0700
            Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 09:13 -0700
              Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 13:59 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 15:11 -0700
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                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-29 00:45 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-28 23:28 +0100
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 06:29 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-29 21:05 +0100
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                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-30 07:22 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-30 17:40 +0100
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-30 11:15 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-31 16:38 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-28 23:54 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-29 07:58 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 12:31 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-30 07:41 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 13:44 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-31 16:09 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 16:18 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-11-01 08:55 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 14:23 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-01 14:35 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-11-01 15:28 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-01 15:34 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 15:45 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-11-02 06:59 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-02 15:42 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-02 16:49 -0400
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-02 22:38 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-03 00:47 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 13:50 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-11-03 07:32 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 14:43 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-03 10:10 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-03 15:51 +0100
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-03 10:00 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-11-03 07:21 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-03 15:41 +0100
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 14:48 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-03 15:57 +0100
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 18:03 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 16:56 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-04 00:38 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Buck Dehner <uktoa@yswdoez.cb> - 2018-11-04 12:14 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 18:39 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 14:15 -0500
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 22:14 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 18:35 -0500
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 00:01 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 14:55 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Gaston Castaneda <ucpp@java4ow.nv> - 2018-11-12 19:07 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-04 23:22 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 12:59 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-06 00:29 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 11:54 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-06 04:02 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 13:36 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-06 05:49 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 18:24 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-06 23:30 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-07 14:52 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-08 05:58 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-08 15:49 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-08 08:16 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-08 18:44 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-08 10:55 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-08 20:47 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-08 13:06 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-09 01:12 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-09 00:10 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-09 12:28 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-09 06:24 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-09 19:24 +0000
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                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-08 20:47 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-08 18:44 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-11-08 10:59 -0800
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                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-10 13:42 +0000
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                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-10 13:59 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 19:40 +0000
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                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-08 21:22 +0100
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                Re: Einstein's Relativity as an Insane Ideology Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-08 18:38 +0000
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