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Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux
Subject Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?
Date 2018-10-12 20:10 -0400
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ray carter wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 17:52:26 +0000, Arlen    Holder wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:04:24 -0500, Wildman wrote:
>>
>>> I would either browse to the mount point using Nautilus and open a
>>> terminal in that directory via context menu or just open the terminal
>>> and change to the mount point using the cd command.  From there run the
>>> command(s).
>> Thanks. That post was written yesterday when I didn't have it tested,
>> where it works fine.
>>
>> The Linux question is what "magic" is on Ubuntu that isn't on Windows
>> that allows this to work with dual-boot Ubuntu 18.04 but not Windows 10?
> 
> The 'magic' is that - on linux, everything is a file.

The same approach has been used in Linux (and Unix) a
number of times.

A new thing is exposed as a command-line-only feature first.

You cannot see the files initially in a file manager.
We used to work with floppy drives with MTOOLS, and
there was a utility for working with Mac HFS which
were like this. Today, mounting a floppy is transparent
(and visible in your file manager), as is the Mac stuff.

http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/mtp-tools.1.html

The other way is with MTPFS, which aligns with your
statement about "magic". In the fullness of time, indeed,
everything is a file.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Media_Transfer_Protocol

And the Linux way, is to fake any necessary parameters,
so that stat() always returns a sensible result. NTFS
doesn't have inodes for example. If you mount NTFS and
list inodes, you receive unique numbers for your trouble.
What are those numbers ? They're the filenum# field from
NTFS, stuffed in as an inode number. This solves the
problem of providing a unique number for the inode number,
even though there is no intention of actually using
inode operations (as NTFS doesn't have inodes).

I can't imagine how they would have back-filled MTP while
doing MTPFS :-) Think of the stuff that would be missing.
Must have been a horror show.

    Paul

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Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-12 15:43 +0000
  Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-12 15:49 +0000
  Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-12 11:04 -0500
    Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-12 17:52 +0000
      Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? ray carter <ray@zianet.com> - 2018-10-12 21:20 +0000
        Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-10-12 20:10 -0400
          Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 01:52 +0000
            Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-15 04:42 +0200
              Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-15 09:53 +0000
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-15 10:41 +0000
              Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-15 10:34 +0000
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2018-10-15 12:45 +0200
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-15 11:01 +0000
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-15 11:14 +0000
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-15 12:19 +0000
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-15 15:03 +0200
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-15 13:15 +0000
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-15 09:33 -0500
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-15 14:41 +0000
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-15 23:27 +0200
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-15 10:59 +0000
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-15 15:04 +0200
          Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-13 01:53 +0000
            Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 03:34 +0000
              Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 04:44 +0000
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-14 15:36 +0000
    Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-12 18:48 +0000
      Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-15 10:50 +0000
  Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-19 23:42 +0000
    Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-20 00:20 +0000
      Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-20 03:15 +0000
        Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-20 16:13 +0000
          Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-20 18:13 +0000
            Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-20 18:43 +0000
          Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-21 13:14 +0200
          Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-21 15:45 +0200
            Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-21 18:29 +0000
              Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-21 22:39 +0200
              Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-21 22:56 +0200
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-21 23:20 +0200
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-22 09:25 +0000
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-21 23:14 +0000
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-22 09:27 +0000
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 00:49 +0000
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 00:47 +0000
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-23 13:00 +0200
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                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-05-09 20:47 +0200
              Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-22 09:23 +0000
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-22 13:12 +0200
                Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-22 13:49 +0200
  Re: Do you already know how to run a Linux command (like ls) on the Android filesystem plugged into USB?  Arlen_Holder <a%rle%20nh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-11-02 15:21 +0000

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