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Re: How Real Is Fake News?

From Sergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics, talk.politics.guns, alt.checkmate
Subject Re: How Real Is Fake News?
Date 2018-10-09 16:27 -0500
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID <ppj6gm$mfu$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink)
References (15 earlier) <MPG.36257a3792310cb19896e7@news.eternal-september.org> <pphs6e$8p2$2@gioia.aioe.org> <MPG.3626857c1483ebad9896f0@news.eternal-september.org> <blffbp.i4e.17.1@news.alt.net> <ppj298$fog$1@gioia.aioe.org>

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On 10/9/2018 3:15 PM, benj wrote:
> On 10/9/2018 1:51 PM, Catalina wrote:
>> "Skeeter" <chico@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.3626857c1483ebad9896f0@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> In article <pphs6e$8p2$2@gioia.aioe.org>, kkensington01
>>> @gmail.nospam.invalid says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/8/2018 5:29 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <ppggpb$1dc$49@dont-email.me>, nad318b404@gmail.invalid
>>>>> says...
>>>>>> On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 14:50:59 -0600, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> I saw the video where that moron was teaching them what to say, how
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> say it and how to start trouble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where did you see this alleged "video"? Infowars? Breitbart?
>>>>>
>>>>> On TV
>>>>
>>>> Ah, so, Fox then.
>>>>
>>>> [snip Nadegda's epic link-spnakage of the hypocritical right wing]
>>>
>>> All this "news wars" is a hoot. "My news is real and yours is fake"
>>
>> Sharyl Attkisson at Tedx talking about "fake news":
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQcCIzjz9_s
>>
>> 9:41 minutes, but everyone of our youth in America needs to watch it. 
>> It's
>> part history lesson.  Very worth it, IMO.
> 
> Worth it my ass. Some journalist blather covering their own asses.
> In my experience as soon as you see "TED TALKS" you can be pretty sure
> its garbage and propaganda. The only decent Ted Talks are the unofficial
> ones that TED talks later banned. This fact really says it all.
> 
> Bottom line: Facts don't matter. Purpose of journalism is not reporting
> but persuasion. As long as I can remember, in my experience journalists
> never report truth. What they do is start with some facts and then spin
> and "adjust" them to create what they call "a good story". The "good
> story" creates a message they are trying to sell and contrary facts to
> that story are removed or obscured though word skills.
> 
> The new thing is that today journalists are just blatant about their
> roles as propagandists. Lies and misrepresentations to create persuasion
> toward a specific viewpoint (usually a political one these days) is the
> norm. And nobody in the media apologizes for it. They simply use their
> same skills to lie about themselves persuading you how much integrity
> they have, how honest they all are, and how they can be trusted because
> they are all so dedicated to high standards. Like P.T. Barnum they view
> their readers as dumb rubes who pretty much deserve what they get if
> they are going to be dumb enough to be so easily fooled.
> 

only the last min or so is worth watching, but most adults alredy know
that.   The rest is barneized, like most of TED Talks.
Highlite: And she accuses Trump of stealing the phrase "fake news", but
that is fake news.

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  Re: Climate change effects surfacing faster in Gulf of St. Lawrence Avenging Angel <Not.fucking.likely@NoWay.com> - 2018-10-07 12:07 +0000
    Re: Climate change effects surfacing faster in Gulf of St. Lawrence kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-07 08:23 -0400
      Re: Climate change effects surfacing faster in Gulf of St. Lawrence Avenging Angel <Not.fucking.likely@NoWay.com> - 2018-10-07 12:50 +0000
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          Re: Climate change effects surfacing faster in Gulf of St. Lawrence Avenging Angel <Not.fucking.likely@NoWay.com> - 2018-10-07 15:36 +0000
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                Re: Climate change effects surfacing faster in Gulf of St. Lawrence "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-07 14:35 -0400
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                How Real Is Fake News? "Catalina" <Catalina@beach.sun> - 2018-10-09 13:51 -0400
                Re: How Real Is Fake News? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 16:15 -0400
                Re: How Real Is Fake News? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-09 16:27 -0500
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