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Re: How Real Is Fake News?

From benj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics, talk.politics.guns, alt.checkmate
Subject Re: How Real Is Fake News?
Date 2018-10-09 16:15 -0400
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID <ppj298$fog$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink)
References (14 earlier) <ppggpb$1dc$49@dont-email.me> <MPG.36257a3792310cb19896e7@news.eternal-september.org> <pphs6e$8p2$2@gioia.aioe.org> <MPG.3626857c1483ebad9896f0@news.eternal-september.org> <blffbp.i4e.17.1@news.alt.net>

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On 10/9/2018 1:51 PM, Catalina wrote:
> "Skeeter" <chico@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:MPG.3626857c1483ebad9896f0@news.eternal-september.org...
>> In article <pphs6e$8p2$2@gioia.aioe.org>, kkensington01
>> @gmail.nospam.invalid says...
>>>
>>> On 10/8/2018 5:29 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>> In article <ppggpb$1dc$49@dont-email.me>, nad318b404@gmail.invalid
>>>> says...
>>>>> On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 14:50:59 -0600, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>> I saw the video where that moron was teaching them what to say, how
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> say it and how to start trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where did you see this alleged "video"? Infowars? Breitbart?
>>>>
>>>> On TV
>>>
>>> Ah, so, Fox then.
>>>
>>> [snip Nadegda's epic link-spnakage of the hypocritical right wing]
>>
>> All this "news wars" is a hoot. "My news is real and yours is fake"
> 
> Sharyl Attkisson at Tedx talking about "fake news":
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQcCIzjz9_s
> 
> 9:41 minutes, but everyone of our youth in America needs to watch it.  It's
> part history lesson.  Very worth it, IMO.

Worth it my ass. Some journalist blather covering their own asses.
In my experience as soon as you see "TED TALKS" you can be pretty sure 
its garbage and propaganda. The only decent Ted Talks are the unofficial 
ones that TED talks later banned. This fact really says it all.

Bottom line: Facts don't matter. Purpose of journalism is not reporting 
but persuasion. As long as I can remember, in my experience journalists 
never report truth. What they do is start with some facts and then spin 
and "adjust" them to create what they call "a good story". The "good 
story" creates a message they are trying to sell and contrary facts to 
that story are removed or obscured though word skills.

The new thing is that today journalists are just blatant about their 
roles as propagandists. Lies and misrepresentations to create persuasion 
toward a specific viewpoint (usually a political one these days) is the 
norm. And nobody in the media apologizes for it. They simply use their 
same skills to lie about themselves persuading you how much integrity 
they have, how honest they all are, and how they can be trusted because 
they are all so dedicated to high standards. Like P.T. Barnum they view 
their readers as dumb rubes who pretty much deserve what they get if 
they are going to be dumb enough to be so easily fooled.

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  Re: Climate change effects surfacing faster in Gulf of St. Lawrence Avenging Angel <Not.fucking.likely@NoWay.com> - 2018-10-07 12:07 +0000
    Re: Climate change effects surfacing faster in Gulf of St. Lawrence kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-07 08:23 -0400
      Re: Climate change effects surfacing faster in Gulf of St. Lawrence Avenging Angel <Not.fucking.likely@NoWay.com> - 2018-10-07 12:50 +0000
        Re: Climate change effects surfacing faster in Gulf of St. Lawrence kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-07 10:40 -0400
          Re: Climate change effects surfacing faster in Gulf of St. Lawrence Avenging Angel <Not.fucking.likely@NoWay.com> - 2018-10-07 15:36 +0000
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                How Real Is Fake News? "Catalina" <Catalina@beach.sun> - 2018-10-09 13:51 -0400
                Re: How Real Is Fake News? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 16:15 -0400
                Re: How Real Is Fake News? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-09 16:27 -0500
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