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Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT)

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT)
Date 2018-09-25 01:20 +0000
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 1:13:15 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> The paper in the following link describes a new theory of relativity
>>> called Improved Relativity Theory (IRT):
>>> 
>>> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2015irt.pdf
>>> 
>>> The differences between IRT and SRT and LET are as follows:
>>> 
>>> 1. IRT says that space is occupied by a structured aether called the
>>> E-Matrix. In other words, the E-Matrix is space. The unique structured of
>>> the E-Matrix enables it to transmit light isotropically in all directions
>>> regardless of the motion of the source.
>> 
>> In other words, you have simply renamed spacetime. Renaming accomplishes
>> nothing physically. 
> 
> No transmission of light in the E-Matrix is based on absolute time.
> Transmission of light in spacetime is not even defined 

Of course it is! That’s what electrodynamics is all about. 

> and in any case it is based on flexible time.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 2. Time in IRT is absolute and the passage of absolute time is
>>> insensitive to motion. In other words, the rate of passage of absolute
>>> time is the same in all frames of reference. However, there is no clock
>>> time unit (including a clock second) that represents the same amount of
>>> absolute time different frames. This causes a clock to accumulate clock
>>> seconds at different rates, in different frames, according to its state
>>> of absolute motion--the higher is the state of absolute motion of the
>>> clock the higher is the absolute time content of its clock second.  This
>>> gives rise to the observed concept of clock time dilation.
>>> 
>>> 3. In IRT the material length of a meter stick is a universal constant in
>>> all frames of reference. However, the light-path-length (LPL: the length
>>> light must travel to cover the length of a moving meter stick) is
>>> predicted to be 1/gamma meter. This prediction is based on the assumption
>>> that the LPL of the observer’s meter stick is its material length.
>> 
>> For the previous two, you postulate absolute length and absolute time but
>> there are no instruments that can measure these. This is because, according
>> to you, all objects are in absolute motion and therefore no clock reads
>> absolute time and no meter stick reads absolute length. This is therefore
>> an unmeasurable quantity, and therefore not a testable hypothesis. 
> 
> Absolute length in IRT is material length. And absolute time is a defined quantity

A defined quantity that is not measurable is not a testable hypothesis. 

> --for example any observer can claim that his clock second represents a
> specific amount of absolute time and he uses the LT to transform his
> specific unit of absolute time another frame and the result is 1/gamma
> second--this means that 1/gamma second on a moving clock contains the
> same amount of absolute time as 1 second on the observer’s clock.
> 
> The GPS uses absolute time to synch the GPS clock with the ground clock.
> Before the launch the GPS second is set to have 4.4647 more periods of 
> Cs 133 radiation than the ground clock second. This is designed to make
> the GPS second at it location contains the same amount absolute time as
> the ground clock second. This means that the GPS is continually in synch
> with the group clock interns of absolute time.
> 
> Absolute motion was detected by several past experiments and new
> experiments to detect absolute motion are proposed in the following link:
> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2015experiment.pdf
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 4. An IRT observer does not assume that his clock accumulates clock
>>> seconds at a faster rate than a clock moving wrt him and the LPL of his
>>> meter stick is shorter than a meter stick moving wrt him. He must include
>>> the possibilities that the clock moving wrt him is accumulating clock
>>> seconds at a faster rate and that the LPL of a meter stick moving wrt him
>>> is shorter than the LPL of his meter stick.
>>> 
>>> The above premises of IRT eliminate all the paradoxes of SRT. More
>>> importantly, it gives rise to the IRT math that is valid in all
>>> environments, including gravity.
>>> 
>> 
>> You have done no “IRT math” to show that it is valid. None. 
> 
> IRT math is shown in the link that started this thread. 

Writing down equations is not doing the math. 

>  
>> And what paradoxes of SRT?
> 
> The twin paradox, the pole/barn paradox, the train/tunnel paradox and the
> bug/rivet paradox.....etc.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-24 09:43 -0700
  Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 17:13 +0000
    Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-24 12:38 -0700
      Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 01:20 +0000
        Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 01:38 +0000
          Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-25 06:47 -0700
            Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 14:13 +0000
              Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-25 17:54 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 02:39 +0000
        Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-25 06:32 -0700
          Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 14:13 +0000
            Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-25 17:57 -0700
              Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 02:39 +0000
  Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-24 18:17 +0000
    Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-24 20:09 +0000
      Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 13:29 -0700
        Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-25 22:29 +0000
          Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) herbertglazier0@gmail.com - 2018-09-25 16:55 -0700
        Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-25 17:52 -0700
          Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 20:11 -0700
            Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-26 04:11 +0000
              Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 09:54 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-26 14:00 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-26 21:29 +0000
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 01:10 +0000
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-27 06:47 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:37 +0000
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-28 13:18 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 22:05 +0000
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-29 08:11 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 15:25 +0000
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-29 12:40 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-29 20:03 +0000
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 22:03 +0000
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-30 19:07 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 14:52 +0000
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-01 11:46 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 21:30 +0000
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-02 07:30 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:08 +0000
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 08:37 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-29 09:20 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-29 12:43 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 15:00 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 10:31 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-01 11:51 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 21:30 +0000
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-02 07:21 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:08 +0000
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 13:27 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-03 06:03 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-03 13:38 +0000
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-03 09:10 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 07:41 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 13:24 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-03 05:59 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 07:43 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 06:20 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-28 07:10 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-28 16:45 +0000
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 13:39 -0700
            Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-26 13:57 -0700
              Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 14:42 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-27 12:46 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 06:30 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-28 06:56 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-28 09:41 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 13:44 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-28 09:43 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 13:51 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-28 14:30 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 14:41 -0700
                Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-28 14:47 -0700

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