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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) |
| Date | 2018-09-25 14:13 +0000 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <podfpg$dn7$2@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote: > On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 9:20:49 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote: >>> On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 1:13:15 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote: >>>>> The paper in the following link describes a new theory of relativity >>>>> called Improved Relativity Theory (IRT): >>>>> >>>>> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2015irt.pdf >>>>> >>>>> The differences between IRT and SRT and LET are as follows: >>>>> >>>>> 1. IRT says that space is occupied by a structured aether called the >>>>> E-Matrix. In other words, the E-Matrix is space. The unique structured of >>>>> the E-Matrix enables it to transmit light isotropically in all directions >>>>> regardless of the motion of the source. >>>> >>>> In other words, you have simply renamed spacetime. Renaming accomplishes >>>> nothing physically. >>> >>> No transmission of light in the E-Matrix is based on absolute time. >>> Transmission of light in spacetime is not even defined >> >> Of course it is! That’s what electrodynamics is all about. > > So how does light travel in spacetime....for that matter what is spacetime? > Is light travel as particle photons? In that case how is it maintain the > same speed wrt an observer moving toward or away from them? These questions are answered with electrodynamics. > >> >>> and in any case it is based on flexible time. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2. Time in IRT is absolute and the passage of absolute time is >>>>> insensitive to motion. In other words, the rate of passage of absolute >>>>> time is the same in all frames of reference. However, there is no clock >>>>> time unit (including a clock second) that represents the same amount of >>>>> absolute time different frames. This causes a clock to accumulate clock >>>>> seconds at different rates, in different frames, according to its state >>>>> of absolute motion--the higher is the state of absolute motion of the >>>>> clock the higher is the absolute time content of its clock second. This >>>>> gives rise to the observed concept of clock time dilation. >>>>> >>>>> 3. In IRT the material length of a meter stick is a universal constant in >>>>> all frames of reference. However, the light-path-length (LPL: the length >>>>> light must travel to cover the length of a moving meter stick) is >>>>> predicted to be 1/gamma meter. This prediction is based on the assumption >>>>> that the LPL of the observer’s meter stick is its material length. >>>> >>>> For the previous two, you postulate absolute length and absolute time but >>>> there are no instruments that can measure these. This is because, according >>>> to you, all objects are in absolute motion and therefore no clock reads >>>> absolute time and no meter stick reads absolute length. This is therefore >>>> an unmeasurable quantity, and therefore not a testable hypothesis. >>> >>> Absolute length in IRT is material length. And absolute time is a defined quantity >> >> A defined quantity that is not measurable is not a testable hypothesis. > > Are you nuts? You can surely measure the length of a meter stick. Absolute time. > >> >>> --for example any observer can claim that his clock second represents a >>> specific amount of absolute time and he uses the LT to transform his >>> specific unit of absolute time another frame and the result is 1/gamma >>> second--this means that 1/gamma second on a moving clock contains the >>> same amount of absolute time as 1 second on the observer’s clock. >>> >>> The GPS uses absolute time to synch the GPS clock with the ground clock. >>> Before the launch the GPS second is set to have 4.4647 more periods of >>> Cs 133 radiation than the ground clock second. This is designed to make >>> the GPS second at it location contains the same amount absolute time as >>> the ground clock second. This means that the GPS is continually in synch >>> with the group clock interns of absolute time. >>> >>> Absolute motion was detected by several past experiments and new >>> experiments to detect absolute motion are proposed in the following link: >>> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2015experiment.pdf >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> 4. An IRT observer does not assume that his clock accumulates clock >>>>> seconds at a faster rate than a clock moving wrt him and the LPL of his >>>>> meter stick is shorter than a meter stick moving wrt him. He must include >>>>> the possibilities that the clock moving wrt him is accumulating clock >>>>> seconds at a faster rate and that the LPL of a meter stick moving wrt him >>>>> is shorter than the LPL of his meter stick. >>>>> >>>>> The above premises of IRT eliminate all the paradoxes of SRT. More >>>>> importantly, it gives rise to the IRT math that is valid in all >>>>> environments, including gravity. >>>>> >>>> >>>> You have done no “IRT math” to show that it is valid. None. >>> >>> IRT math is shown in the link that started this thread. >> >> Writing down equations is not doing the math. > > Sure it is; IRT equations are math....Einstein’s 1905 paper contains > equations and that’s math. Einstein calculated numbers with his equations. He did the math. It’s more than writing equations. > >> >>> >>>> And what paradoxes of SRT? >>> >>> The twin paradox, the pole/barn paradox, the train/tunnel paradox and the >>> bug/rivet paradox.....etc. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-24 09:43 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 17:13 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-24 12:38 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 01:20 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 01:38 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-25 06:47 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 14:13 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-25 17:54 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 02:39 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-25 06:32 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 14:13 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-25 17:57 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 02:39 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-24 18:17 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-24 20:09 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 13:29 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-25 22:29 +0000
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Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-25 17:52 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 20:11 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-26 04:11 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 09:54 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-26 14:00 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-26 21:29 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 01:10 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-27 06:47 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:37 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-28 13:18 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 22:05 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-29 08:11 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 15:25 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-29 12:40 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-29 20:03 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 22:03 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-30 19:07 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 14:52 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-01 11:46 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 21:30 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-02 07:30 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:08 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 08:37 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-29 09:20 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-29 12:43 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 15:00 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 10:31 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-01 11:51 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 21:30 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-02 07:21 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:08 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 13:27 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-03 06:03 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-03 13:38 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-03 09:10 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 07:41 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 13:24 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-03 05:59 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 07:43 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 06:20 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-28 07:10 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-28 16:45 +0000
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 13:39 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-26 13:57 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 14:42 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-27 12:46 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 06:30 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-28 06:56 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-28 09:41 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 13:44 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-28 09:43 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 13:51 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-28 14:30 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 14:41 -0700
Re: Improved Relativity Theory (IRT) "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-28 14:47 -0700
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