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Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux.

From Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux.
Date 2018-09-24 21:27 +0000
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On 2018-09-24, Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

> On 9/24/18 1:14 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
>
>> At Mon, 24 Sep 2018 19:29:43 +0100 The Natural Philosopher
>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am you see tidying up my video collection by using handbrake to trim
>>> the videos to their actual size rather than the form thay came in,
>>> suuround by 'black space'  And crop off station ids where they are on
>>> recirded materail but 'off screen'
>>>
>>> So I set up a batch in Handbrake, then went and did something else, then
>>> started deleting all the converted files - files that had .mp4
>>> extensions and also .m4v extensions.
>>>
>>> Then I realised I had just deleted the source file of the movie
>>> currently being converted.
>>>
>>> Handbrake, which had the file open, didnt even blink.
>>>
>>> Linux of course wont ACTUALLY delete the file until is is closed by all
>>> accessing it..
>> 
>> Linux never really (actually) deletes files. "rm" just "unlinks" them
>> (removes the *directory entry*) (the kernel call is "unlink", there is
>> no "delete" kernel call). The inodes don't get moved to the free list
>> until both of these states are true:
>> 
>> There are no directory entries pointing at the inodes.
>> 
>> There are no open files pointing at the inodes.
>> 
>>> A fundamental safeguard on an OS derived from multiuser Unix...
>> 
>> Just the right thing to do.
>> 
> 	Only sometimes? I like Linux about 8 days a week.

Which is about how much I hate Windows - especially its damned file system,
including its obsession with exclusive file locks.

One of the most FA'd of Qs in Windows discussion groups is:
"How do I update the executable file for a running program?"
This is met by a flood of answers describing increasingly
convoluted hacks - usually involving at least one reboot -
culminating in the conclusion: "You can't."  Under Linux
it's trivial.

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Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-24 19:29 +0100
  Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2018-09-24 15:14 -0500
    Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-09-24 14:01 -0700
      Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2018-09-24 21:27 +0000
        Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-24 22:49 -0400
          Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-25 09:08 +0100
          Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2018-09-25 11:51 +0000
            Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-25 14:45 +0100
              Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2018-09-25 20:22 +0000
                Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-26 08:32 +0100
          Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2018-09-25 08:34 -0500
            Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-09-25 15:28 +0000
              Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2018-09-25 11:21 -0500
                Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-09-25 21:26 +0000
                Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2018-09-25 19:06 -0500
              Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2018-09-25 20:33 +0000
                Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-09-25 23:41 +0000
                Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2018-09-26 00:51 +0000
  Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. jrg <jeff.g.group@att.net> - 2018-09-24 14:33 -0700
    Re: Sometiomes I really LOVE linux. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2018-09-24 21:59 +0000

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