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Re: The false premises of current physics

From Sergio <invalid@invalid.com>
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Subject Re: The false premises of current physics
Date 2018-09-12 08:55 -0500
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On 9/12/2018 7:35 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 11:48:38 AM UTC-4, Sergio wrote:
>> On 9/11/2018 10:40 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:53:31 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> The false premises of the current theories that led generations of
>>>>> physicists to a 100 years of wild goose chase. Specifically, these false
>>>>> premises failed to lead physicists to come up with a unified theory for all the forces 
>>>>>
>>>>>  A summary of the false premises of current theories: 
>>>>> In quantum mechanics, specifically the QFT, a material object will
>>>>> project a field throughout space 
>>>>
>>>> That is an incorrect description. 
>>>
>>> You are a woodworker.....you are not qualified.
>>
>> kenseto- material objects create a gravitational field throughout space,
>> so your statement is incorrect.
>  
> What is the difference between “project” and “create”?

as used in the sentence, none.

you label this as false;
"material object will project a field throughout space"

however, my counter example;
"material objects create a gravitational field throughout space"



>>>>> and virtual particles in the form of bosons will pop in and out of this
>>>>> field. These bosons will act as force messengers to affect an appropriate
>>>>> force to the interacting object. The force messengers for all the forces
>>>>> can be summarized as follows: 
>>>>> The strong force messengers are the gluons. The existence of gluon has
>>>>> not been found experimentally. 
>>>>
>>>> Incorrect, evidence has been found experimentally. 
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The force messengers for the electroweak force are: W+, W- and Z0. These
>>>>> force messengers have been found experimentally. 
>>>>
>>>> That’s correct. 
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The force messengers for the electromagnetic force are the photons. The
>>>>> virtual photons have been found experimentally. 
>>>>
>>>> That’s correct. 
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The force messengers for gravity are the gravitons. Graviton has not been
>>>>> found experimentally. 
>>>>
>>>> That’s correct. 
>>>>
>>>> So summarizing, the force carrier bosons for three of four basic
>>>> interactions have been found experimentally, and moreover those have the
>>>> exact features predicted by the theory. And on the basis of this remarkable
>>>> progress since the 1950s, barely six decades, you are declaring quantum
>>>> field theory a dismal failure with false premises? How can a theory with
>>>> false premises be so spectacularly confirmed by experiment? Is your idea
>>>> that if a theory doesn’t have all its components and predictions confirmed
>>>> by experiment in five years then it’s a failure?
>>>>
>>>>> In fact, the notion of gravitons for the force of gravity has been a
>>>>> total failure mathematically. This means that there is no valid theory of quantum gravity. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Einstein’s premise of gravity is simply that the interacting objects
>>>>> follow the curvature of space-time. There is no physical cause of gravity
>>>>> in Einstein’s description. 
>>>>
>>>> Incorrect. 
>>>>
>>>>> In other words, GRT is merely a mathematical description of the paths
>>>>> followed by the interacting objects. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I came to the conclusion that there is one physical model of our universe
>>>>> that can replace these divergent false premises of GRT and QFT. The
>>>>> result of an intense search for such physical model for the past twenty
>>>>> years is: Model Mechanics. Model Mechanics posits that all the particles,
>>>>> all the forces and all the processes of nature are the result of
>>>>> different absolute motions of the fundamental S-Particles in a structured
>>>>> and elastic ether called the E-Matrix. The detailed description of Model
>>>>> Mechanics is available in Chapter 3 of my book in the following link: 
>>>>> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf 
>>>>>
>>>>> The main feature of Model Mechanics are as follows: 
>>>>> It offers a realistic origin of the universe. 
>>>>> It offers realistic processes for the origin of all visible matters. 
>>>>> It explains the cell division and the consciousness processes. 
>>>>> It provides a mechanism to amalgamate all the forces of nature. 
>>>>> It can be validated experimentally. 
>>>>> It gives rise to an Improved Relativity Theory (IRT). 
>>>>> It gives rise to a new theory of gravity called Doppler Theory of Gravity (DTG) 
>>>>> It includes Special Theory of Relativity and General Theory of Relativity as subsets. 
>>>>> It provides physical models for all the math of Quantum Mechanics. 
>>>>> It postulates a new repulsive fifth force identified as the CRE force. 
>>>>> It gives a physical explanation for the charge of a particle. 
>>>>> It gives physical explanations all the weird results of all quantum experiments. 
>>>>> It explains the structures of atoms.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And you haven’t done one damn calculation with it. You don’t know how. 
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>

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The false premises of current physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-10 15:28 -0700
  Re: The false premises of current physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 22:53 +0000
    Re: The false premises of current physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-11 08:40 -0700
      Re: The false premises of current physics Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-11 10:48 -0500
        Re: The false premises of current physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-12 05:35 -0700
          Re: The false premises of current physics Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-12 08:55 -0500
      Re: The false premises of current physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 17:30 +0000
    Re: The false premises of current physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-12 05:32 -0700
      Re: The false premises of current physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 13:09 +0000
  Re: The false premises of current physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-11 09:09 -0700
    Re: The false premises of current physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-11 09:21 -0700
      Re: The false premises of current physics "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 09:28 -0700
        Re: The false premises of current physics "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-09-11 10:18 -0700

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