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Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity
Date 2018-09-01 01:18 +0000
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Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 2:50:36 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
>>>> Let’s just take a minute and remind ourselves that the time coordinate in a
>>>> reference frame is given by a standard clock at rest in that frame. 
>>> 
>>> I did not say anything about time coordinates or transformation
>>> equations.  I just said there were two clocks with different rates.  
>> 
>> Which you then used, you say, to find speeds. But speeds are based on space
>> coordinates and time coordinates. So unless you have a clock capable of
>> giving you a time coordinate, then you haven’t found a speed of anything
>> using that clock. 
> 
> 
> No, I am just describing the physical facts of what each clock indicates.
>  Now suppose we have two clocks, one that says a car goes a mile in sixty
> seconds and one that says a car goes a mile in 59 seconds.  One clock
> indicates that the car is going sixty miles per hour, the other indicates
> the car is going 61 miles per hour.  Either one clock is right and the
> other wrong, or they are both wrong.  I am not going to judge the matter.
>  I just make note of the fact that the slower clock has a time that
> results in a faster result for speed.  If that seems wrong to you, go
> ahead and think it is wrong.  I am not trying to tell you what to think. 
> I know how important Harry Potter books are to most people.  
>> 
>>> Now you have discussed this with me before.  According to you, clocks
>>> cannot have different rates because a standard clock is at rest in a
>>> frame of reference.  
>> 
>> Of course clocks can give different rates. But STANDARD clocks in the same
>> frame can’t give different rates. And to find the speed of something you
>> need a STANDARD clock. 
>> 
> 
> I can find the speed of something according to any clock.  

No, Robert, you can’t. 

> That speed might not agree with scientific standards, but it agrees with
> what you call a broken clock.  It was by experimenting with broken clocks
> that I discovered that a slower clock indicates faster speeds.  Now, I
> know that scientists want us to believe that a slower clock and a faster
> clock both result in the same speed, but I have to confess that I do not believe it.  
>> You can read a painted watchface on a brick if you like, but you won’t get
>> the speed of anything with that reading. 

See?

>> 
>>> So I purposely did not mention the Galilean transformation equations, the
>>> Lorentz equations, or anything else except what you evidently do not
>>> believe can exist, two clocks with different rates.  Now if Einstein was
>>> still alive, I am sure he could understand the concept I am talking about
>>> because he described it perfectly.  One clock had a time of
>>> 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) seconds between ticks, while the other had a time of 1
>>> second between ticks.  
>> 
>> Let me repeat. Einstein was talking about two STANDARD clocks at rest in
>> two different reference frames. That’s much different than taking a
>> Walgreens clock that runs slow and a watchface painted on a brick as your
>> two clocks. I’m sure you can understand that. 
>> 
>> The word “standard” is very important here and forms the basis of what
>> Einstein was saying. 
>> 
>>> Einstein had an uncanny ability to visualize reality, even though he was
>>> a scientist and he believed that there were standard clocks at rest in
>>> frames of reference.  
>>>> 
>>>> So if you have two clocks at rest in a reference frame and one of them is
>>>> running twice as fast as the other then at least one of those clocks is not
>>>> a standard clock. And a nonstandard clock is not going to give you the time
>>>> coordinate in that reference frame, by definition. And since the speed of
>>>> something in a reference frame is given by a ratio of spatial and time
>>>> coordinates in that frame, then that nonstandard clock isn’t telling you
>>>> the speed of anything. I mean, you’ll get a number that looks like a speed
>>>> but it won’t actually represent the speed of anything. 
>>> 
>>> Well, I purposely chose two clocks with a great difference in rates so
>>> that you could grasp one thing.  The velocities obtained from the times
>>> of the two clocks were not the same.  
>> 
>> Sorry but one of the “velocities” you obtained was not the velocity of
>> anything. It takes more than just a number in feet and a number in seconds
>> to obtain a velocity. I could take 100 yards as the length of a football
>> field and 25 seconds as the time it takes ketchup to start flowing out of a
>> bottle, but 100 yards per 25 seconds = 4 yards/second doesn’t correspond to
>> the speed of anything relevant. 
>> 
>> Likewise, using one of your nonstandard clocks, you can come up with a
>> number that looks like a speed but it’s not the speed of anything relevant.
>> 
>> 
>>> We can spend as long as you want to spend on this.  Perhaps in a few
>>> years time, you will come to accept reality.  
>>> Now I am not as prejudiced against certain clocks as you are.  To me they
>>> are just mechanisms that show rates of time.  They do not necessarily
>>> have to conform to cesium atoms or rotation of the earth.  For instance
>>> you might want a timer to turn on an air conditioner to keep a room at a
>>> certain temperature, or you might want a sprinkler system to water the
>>> grass at certain periods of time.  In those cases you have clocks that
>>> you certainly would not consider standard, but are clocks, nonetheless.
>>> Or maybe you want to be like the Governor of California and say that such
>>> clocks cannot exist because there is global warming.  See how these
>>> differences of opinion can exist?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You see the importance of that little two-syllable word “standard”?
>>>> 
>>> Well, no, not with the example I gave, an experiment involving two clocks
>>> with different rates.  I think we should concentrate on the concept of
>>> whether there could be two clocks with different rates.  I was converted
>>> to this concept when I bought a clock at Walgreen's drug store that lost
>>> ten minutes per day.  It convinced me that clocks could run at different
>>> rates even though scientists had a little two-syllable word, "standard".
>>> So ever since that time I have had a tendency to regard all clocks
>>> without prejudice, even though some agree with cesium atoms, (notice that
>>> I did not say transitions), and some do not agree with cesium atoms.  
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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          Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity SolomonW <SoloomonW@citi.com.au> - 2018-07-31 15:09 +1000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-03 19:26 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 15:39 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 15:34 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-07 10:26 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-08 14:05 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-09 03:15 +0200
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-09 05:11 +0200
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-09 05:14 +0200
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-09 06:41 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-10 17:19 +0200
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 16:46 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 18:42 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-10 14:51 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 15:45 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-10 16:08 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 22:15 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 23:05 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 16:39 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-11 01:58 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 19:02 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 14:00 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-11 14:35 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 22:35 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-11 15:45 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-11 15:46 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-12 00:58 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-12 04:53 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-12 07:20 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 22:19 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-12 00:13 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-12 21:51 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-13 04:06 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-13 11:52 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-12 18:32 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-08-12 19:55 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 13:21 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 08:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 15:42 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-15 07:20 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-15 07:48 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 18:13 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-15 14:46 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-15 19:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 22:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-16 04:12 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-16 12:52 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-16 20:18 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-17 03:38 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-17 21:54 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-17 18:10 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-17 21:35 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-17 21:57 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 22:41 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-18 23:39 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-16 11:04 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 20:49 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 16:06 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 23:50 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 19:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 11:33 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 17:09 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 19:41 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 13:39 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 06:57 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:44 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:07 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 09:11 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-19 07:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 07:54 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Icano Bologna <ob@woccgn.cc> - 2018-08-19 15:42 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:18 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:44 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-18 13:44 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-19 18:21 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 11:50 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-19 23:36 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-20 16:40 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-20 19:27 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-20 13:25 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 11:02 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:42 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-20 17:04 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-20 21:17 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-20 21:08 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-20 22:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 13:13 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-21 08:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 17:08 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-21 12:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 20:44 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-21 23:21 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:44 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:05 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:17 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-19 15:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 16:05 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-19 16:27 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 23:40 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 14:46 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-20 08:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Jed Sosebee <eue@eosgps.pn> - 2018-08-20 15:39 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-19 18:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 14:46 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-19 15:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-20 08:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 09:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 16:42 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 11:21 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-20 19:47 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 13:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 21:14 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 16:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 13:04 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 08:46 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 16:30 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 13:54 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-21 14:12 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 21:34 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-21 23:47 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:31 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:23 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 02:23 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 23:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 12:21 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 06:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 14:39 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 09:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 20:43 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 15:45 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 02:12 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 19:47 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-22 14:45 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 07:32 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-21 10:05 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 14:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-21 14:25 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-21 20:26 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 23:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 16:27 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 21:14 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 21:14 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 16:31 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 13:13 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 08:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 16:30 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 13:57 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-21 14:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:07 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-22 14:40 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 07:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 14:58 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 08:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-23 13:54 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 07:39 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-24 00:34 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-25 12:36 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-27 14:57 +0100
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 21:38 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:28 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 02:29 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 23:23 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 12:21 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 07:08 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 14:53 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 08:38 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 20:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 21:39 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 10:10 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 20:43 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 16:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-25 15:11 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-26 05:10 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 07:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 14:53 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 10:12 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 20:43 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 16:20 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 20:25 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 21:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 22:15 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 10:33 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 10:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-23 11:15 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-22 17:22 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 10:35 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 12:54 -0700

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