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Re: Which Hawking are we talking about ?

From Sergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Which Hawking are we talking about ?
Date 2018-08-21 16:23 -0500
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On 8/21/2018 4:18 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>> what "information" is Hawking actually talking about ?
> 
> Which Hawking are we talking about ?
> He changed his opinion over the years.
> 
> In the end, his book and TV series said SuperDeterminism is real,
> he said no one can go backwards in time, not even via wormholes,
> and he said black holes don't hide information from us.
> 

but the information does not get out.  you have to go there to look at it.

as you approach the surface of a black hole, time approachs 0 so things
fall to the surface of the black hole and stay stuck there.  I doubt
that any  "information" is actually readable as the gravity is sky high,
near the surface pulling apart everything, and crushing it together.

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Hawking on the conservation of information Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 18:47 -0700
  Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-20 21:00 -0500
    Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 05:32 -0700
      Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-21 10:32 -0500
        Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 08:52 -0700
          Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-21 12:19 -0500
            Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 10:28 -0700
            Which Hawking are we talking about ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-08-21 14:18 -0700
              Re: Which Hawking are we talking about ? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-21 16:23 -0500
                Which Hawking are we talking about ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-08-21 14:49 -0700
                Re: Which Hawking are we talking about ? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-21 17:22 -0500
              Re: Which Hawking are we talking about ? Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 14:47 -0700
                When ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-08-21 14:52 -0700
                Re: When ? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-08-23 16:39 -0700
  Re: Hawking on the conservation of information benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 09:27 -0400
    Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 07:59 -0700
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