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Re: Hawking on the conservation of information

From Sergio <invalid@invalid.com>
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Subject Re: Hawking on the conservation of information
Date 2018-08-21 12:19 -0500
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On 8/21/2018 10:52 AM, Musatov wrote:
> My point was some mechanism where destroyed here=saved there. So no, not actually destroyed, just to us inaccessible. (Hawking asserts information requires energy-- so would that imply if energy is conserved so is information?)
> 

faulty logic.

information requires energy
energy is conserved
therefore information is conserved

a man has two legs
a monkey has two legs
therefore all men are monkeys.


energy is conserved only means the magnitude of energy is conserved, not
the form of energy, not the structure, nor type.

and again, what "information" is Hawking actually talking about ?

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Hawking on the conservation of information Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 18:47 -0700
  Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-20 21:00 -0500
    Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 05:32 -0700
      Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-21 10:32 -0500
        Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 08:52 -0700
          Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-21 12:19 -0500
            Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 10:28 -0700
            Which Hawking are we talking about ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-08-21 14:18 -0700
              Re: Which Hawking are we talking about ? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-21 16:23 -0500
                Which Hawking are we talking about ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-08-21 14:49 -0700
                Re: Which Hawking are we talking about ? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-21 17:22 -0500
              Re: Which Hawking are we talking about ? Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 14:47 -0700
                When ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-08-21 14:52 -0700
                Re: When ? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-08-23 16:39 -0700
  Re: Hawking on the conservation of information benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 09:27 -0400
    Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 07:59 -0700
  Re: Hawking on the conservation of information mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 17:56 -0700

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