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Re: Hawking on the conservation of information

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On 8/20/2018 9:47 PM, Musatov wrote:
> Is there any way Hawking could have been right about black holes
> annihilating information HERE, but perhaps storing it somewhere not
> here?
> 
> (Perhaps the very act of annihilating information in our realm could
> be what stores the information in another....)
> 
> Any thoughts from the community?
> 
> Thanks, Musatov
> 
Can information be annihilated? Steam engine thermodynamics (as espoused
by Odd) teaches that entropy is always being created and thus is
increasing. However Post-Shannon understanding strongly suggests that 
entropy like energy is conserved. The indication seems to be that 
mechanical processes (like steam engines) tend to increase entropy while 
life processes tend to decrease it. Information is the missing entropy 
in the Maxwell demon.

I pretty much have no interest in what Hawking said or in black holes, 
but given the above theory it would seem one could surmise that black 
holes actually do not "annihilate" information but rather act as a 
portal transporting information (entropy) to another realm. This can be 
termed another "universe" or better perhaps is another "dimension" 
though there is a theory that black holes are really a portal between a 
realm where time is moving forward (ours) and another realm where time 
is moving backwards. Which is to say between particle and anti-particle 
universes.

Of course this is all speculation and worse involves concepts totally 
forbidden by the grand science metaparadigms and thus if you insist on 
pursuing them your career in science will likely be destroyed and be 
over forever.

Say no more.

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Hawking on the conservation of information Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 18:47 -0700
  Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-20 21:00 -0500
    Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 05:32 -0700
      Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-21 10:32 -0500
        Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 08:52 -0700
          Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-21 12:19 -0500
            Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 10:28 -0700
            Which Hawking are we talking about ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-08-21 14:18 -0700
              Re: Which Hawking are we talking about ? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-21 16:23 -0500
                Which Hawking are we talking about ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-08-21 14:49 -0700
                Re: Which Hawking are we talking about ? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-21 17:22 -0500
              Re: Which Hawking are we talking about ? Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 14:47 -0700
                When ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-08-21 14:52 -0700
                Re: When ? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-08-23 16:39 -0700
  Re: Hawking on the conservation of information benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 09:27 -0400
    Re: Hawking on the conservation of information Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 07:59 -0700
  Re: Hawking on the conservation of information mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 17:56 -0700

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