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Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity
Date 2018-08-16 18:42 +0000
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Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 7:28:15 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 7:49:42 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you were, you would be showing why the equation for the circumference
>>>>>>> of a circle is wrong.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In non flat spaces. And that’s not special to relativity. That’s background
>>>>>> material. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here’s an interesting question Robert. Let’s see if you can get the answer
>>>>>> right. Let’s say you are standing in the middle of the Bonneville Salt
>>>>>> Flats. You mark that spot, and then you walk away for a radius of two
>>>>>> miles. Then you walk around your original spot in a circle, drawing a fine
>>>>>> line on the ground as you go. Will the length of that line be equal to,
>>>>>> less than, or more than 2*pi*(2 miles)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, you are trying to say that the Bonneville Salt flats are not flat. 
>>>>> That is supposed to confuse me about the orbit of a satellite.  
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I’m sorry you got confused. Not my intent. Have you got an answer to the
>>>> question about the circumference of the salt flats circle?
>>>> 
>>> Well, I have answered it a couple of times already.  Evidently, you were
>>> not happy with my answer, so I will try to put it in more precise terms. 
>>> If a sphere is intersected by a plane, the center of the circle the
>>> sphere makes on the plane is on the plane, not on the surface of the sphere.  
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Aha, so this is useful. Let’s see what this means. So I had a curved,
>> two-dimensional space — the constant-elevation ground surface at the
>> Bonneville salt flats. And I made a radius on that 2D space, and I’ve drawn
>> a circumference on that space. And what you’ve told me is what I already
>> suspected, that C=2*pi*R does not work on that space. You’ve also told me
>> that what I have to do is leave that space, so that I’m not on the surface
>> anymore, and I have to dig down into the ground to find a place that lies
>> on a plane with the circle, and that can be the center of the circle. And
>> of course, I’ll have to dig a 2-mile long trench, extending from that hole
>> to a point on the circle, in order to measure a radius in that plane. Of
>> course, almost none of that radius actually resides on the 2D
>> constant-elevation surface of the salt flats; the only place where it does
>> is the point where it meets the circle. And then, with this center and a
>> radius that don’t actually reside on the salt flats surface, the C=2*pi*R
>> will work, because that is, after all, a PLANE GEOMETRY relation. 
>> 
>> Have we got this all correct so far? Because I think we are getting
>> somewhere, and this may have some bearing on satellite orbits after all. 
> 
> Well, you can pretend to not understand, but I have already given you the
> answer.  If you have rejected solid geometry a well as algebra, then you
> have a very limited mathematical basis.  There used to be people who
> could visualize some of these things.  For example, back in 700 B.C. the
> Assyrians were invading the kingdom of Judea.  The Jews at Jerusalem
> decided to divert the water from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam
> inside the city to prevent the Assyrians from having a convenient source
> of water when they arrived to besiege Jerusalem.  So a tunnel was started
> from Gihon Spring toward the Pool of Siloam, and a tunnel was started
> from the Pool of Siloam toward Gihon spring.  How did it happen that the two tunnels met?  
> Workers digging from one direction could not see the workers digging from
> the other direction.  I know how difficult this must seem to visualize
> for someone who has learned modern science, but mathematicians of that
> time calculated how to get the two tunnels to meet each other.  Even
> though they were digging through sandstone, they could calculate
> mathematically a certain point within the solid rock.  
> What I do is the same thing.  There is not an actual plane of sheet metal
> or some other solid cutting through the sphere.  What we have is an
> imaginary plane which intersects the sphere.  Then where the surface of
> the sphere would meet the imaginary plane, there is a circle.  The center
> of the circle is not on the surface of the sphere.  It is within the
> solid sphere on the imaginary plane.  
> So, as you can see, I have done something similar to what was done in
> constructing the tunnel.  I have calculated a point within the solid
> sphere that is the center of a circle drawn on the surface of the sphere,
> just as they calculated a point in solid sandstone where two tunnels
> would meet.  I know all mathematics of that time has been replaced by
> modern concepts of relativity, but I sometimes go back to things that
> were done when there were still people doing things.  
> 
> 

Well I understand you’ve been able to imagine in your mind the flat 2D
space (called a plane) where C=2*pi*R would work. Very good. And what’s
even more useful is that you were able to imagine having a center and a
radius and a circle actually all on the surface of the salt flats, and for
THAT 2D space you were able to determine that C=2*pi*R is not true and that
in fact C would be smaller than 2*pi*R. So you see you can imagine
different geometric rules for two kinds of spaces, ones with intrinsic
curvature and ones without. 

So congrats on that! That’s important to hang onto. 

Now the question is whether you can see that there might be different
geometric rules for two kinds of 3D spaces, ones with intrinsic curvature
and ones without. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-09 03:15 +0200
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-10 17:19 +0200
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 22:15 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 23:05 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 16:39 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-11 01:58 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 19:02 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 14:00 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-11 14:35 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-12 00:58 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-12 04:53 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 22:19 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-12 00:13 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-12 21:51 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-12 18:32 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-08-12 19:55 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 15:42 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-15 07:20 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-15 14:46 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-16 04:12 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-17 18:10 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-18 23:39 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 23:50 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 11:33 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 17:09 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 19:41 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 06:57 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 09:11 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 07:54 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:44 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-18 13:44 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-19 18:21 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 11:50 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-19 23:36 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-20 16:40 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-20 13:25 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:42 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-20 17:04 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-20 21:17 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-20 21:08 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-20 22:48 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-21 08:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 17:08 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-21 12:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 20:44 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-21 23:21 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:44 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:17 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-19 16:27 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 23:40 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-19 18:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 14:46 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-19 15:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-20 08:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 09:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 16:42 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 11:21 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-20 19:47 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 13:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 21:14 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 16:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 13:04 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 08:46 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 16:30 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 13:54 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-21 14:12 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 21:34 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-21 23:47 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:31 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:23 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 02:23 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 23:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 12:21 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 06:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 14:39 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 09:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 20:43 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 15:45 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 02:12 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 19:47 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-22 14:45 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 07:32 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-21 10:05 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 14:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-21 14:25 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-21 20:26 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 23:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 16:27 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 21:14 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 21:14 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 16:31 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 13:13 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 08:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 16:30 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 13:57 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-21 14:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:07 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-22 14:40 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 07:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 14:58 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 08:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-23 13:54 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 07:39 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-24 00:34 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-25 12:36 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-27 14:57 +0100
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 21:38 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:28 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 02:29 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 23:23 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 12:21 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 07:08 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 14:53 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 08:38 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 20:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 21:39 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 10:10 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 20:43 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 16:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-25 15:11 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-26 05:10 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 07:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 14:53 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 10:12 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 20:43 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 16:20 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 20:25 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 21:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 22:15 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 10:33 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 10:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-23 11:15 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-22 17:22 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 10:35 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 12:54 -0700

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