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Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity
Date 2018-08-16 17:12 +0000
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Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 6:47:20 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 7:49:42 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you were, you would be showing why the equation for the circumference
>>>>>>> of a circle is wrong.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In non flat spaces. And that’s not special to relativity. That’s background
>>>>>> material. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here’s an interesting question Robert. Let’s see if you can get the answer
>>>>>> right. Let’s say you are standing in the middle of the Bonneville Salt
>>>>>> Flats. You mark that spot, and then you walk away for a radius of two
>>>>>> miles. Then you walk around your original spot in a circle, drawing a fine
>>>>>> line on the ground as you go. Will the length of that line be equal to,
>>>>>> less than, or more than 2*pi*(2 miles)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, you are trying to say that the Bonneville Salt flats are not flat. 
>>>>> That is supposed to confuse me about the orbit of a satellite.  
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I’m sorry you got confused. Not my intent. Have you got an answer to the
>>>> question about the circumference of the salt flats circle?
>>>> 
>>> I have no idea about some particular place on the salt flats.  I have
>>> never been there.  A circle could be the same or smaller, depending on
>>> the curvature of the surface.  
>>> 
>> 
>> You may be correct. But let’s dive into your thinking. You just said, if
>> I’m not mistaken, that the circumference C could be smaller than 2*pi*R,
>> depending on the curvature of the surface. So since you believe that there
>> is some axiom of algebra that says that if you write C=2*pi*R then the two
>> little horizontal lines tell you the left side is equal to the right side,
>> we may have a problem. What do you suppose is the root of the issue? Here
>> are some options:
>> 
>> 1. The value of 2 is different on the salt flats. 
>> 2. The value of pi is different on the salt flats. 
>> 3. The value of R is not 2 miles on the salt flats. 
>> 4. The salt flats prove that C=2*pi*R is false. 
>> 5. There is no axiom that insists that C=2*pi*R is true because of the
>> equal sign. 
>> 7.  C=2*pi*R is a formula that works in some clearly stated circumstances
>> that do not hold on the salt flats. 
>> 8. Scientists have forced people to believe that C=2*pi*R is true as a scam
>> to get money. 
> 
> Well, you forgot that you had rejected solid geometry as well as algebra.  
> 

Heck no, I’ve not rejected solid geometry. 

Let’s recall where we’ve gotten to.  We discovered that there is a
difference between doing geometry on a plane vs. doing geometry on a curved
2D surface. We discovered that by noting that C=2*pi*R doesn’t work on a
curved 2D surface where the circle and the radius and the center all lie on
that surface. What you can do is imagine a PLANE that is not that surface
but intersects that surface. And if you choose a circle and a center and a
radius that is on that PLANE, then C=2*pi*R works.  And the lesson here is
to not assume that flat-space geometric relations will work on a curved
space. 

So now you want to talk about solid geometry. Fine, let’s talk about solid
geometry. There’s a geometric relation for a sphere for example that says
that if you have a center in space, and there is a radius R drawn in that
space from the center to the sphere, then the area of the sphere is given
by A=4*pi*R^2. And you can ask whether that relation works or not. 

Well, you may be already anticipating the answer, Robert, because you’re
smart, though not particularly well informed of some facts. The answer is
that it depends on whether the space (where you’ve drawn the sphere and the
radius and the center) is flat or not. Here flat doesn’t mean
two-dimensional or flat like a pancake. What it means is that it’s lacking
inherent curvature. It’s an interesting exercise to understand what
inherent curvature means at all, and actually a good way to think about
that question is to ask how someone at the Bonneville Salt Flats who never
knew the earth was round might be able to figure out that the salt flats is
actually a surface with curvature. 

Now it’s entirely possible that you’ve never even considered the
possibility of a 3D space that has inherent curvature. You’ve possibly
never considered a 3D space where it’s possible that A=4*pi*R^2 doesn’t
work for a sphere in that space. You’ve possibly never considered the
possibility that for a sphere in 3D space, to make A=4*pi*R^2 work, you
have to find a center and a radius that don’t actually lie in that 3D
space, just like you had to dig a hole and a trench in the Bonneville Salt
Flats to find a center and a radius (not actually on that salt flats
surface) to make C=2*pi*R work. And note that we’re not talking about the
curvature of the circle, we are talking bout the curvature of the surface
the circle is in. But somehow you were able to see the difference between
curved surface geometry and flat surface geometry pretty quickly. So maybe
it’s just a simple matter now to recognize the difference between flat
solid geometry and curved solid geometry. And again here, even in the 3D
case, we are not talking about the curvature of the sphere, we are talking
about the curvature of the space the sphere is in. 

So, after all that, Robert, I’ll repeat that I like solid geometry. But I
know enough to be careful about what solid geometry relations work in flat
3D space and which ones work in curved 3D space. A=4*pi*R^2 doesn’t work in
curved 3D space. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-09 03:15 +0200
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-10 17:19 +0200
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 22:15 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 23:05 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 16:39 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-11 01:58 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 19:02 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 14:00 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-11 14:35 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-12 00:58 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-12 04:53 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 22:19 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-12 00:13 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-12 21:51 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-12 18:32 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-08-12 19:55 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 15:42 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-15 07:20 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-15 14:46 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-16 04:12 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-17 18:10 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-18 23:39 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 23:50 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 11:33 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 17:09 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 19:41 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 06:57 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 09:11 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 07:54 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:44 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-18 13:44 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-19 18:21 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 11:50 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-19 23:36 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-20 16:40 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-20 13:25 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:42 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-20 17:04 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-20 21:17 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-20 21:08 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-20 22:48 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-21 08:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 17:08 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-21 12:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 20:44 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-21 23:21 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:44 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:17 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-19 16:27 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 23:40 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-19 18:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 14:46 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-19 15:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:56 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-20 08:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 09:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 16:42 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 11:21 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-20 19:47 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 13:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 21:14 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 16:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 13:04 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 08:46 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 16:30 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 13:54 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-21 14:12 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 21:34 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-21 23:47 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:31 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:23 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 02:23 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 23:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 12:21 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 06:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 14:39 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 09:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 20:43 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 15:45 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 02:12 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 19:47 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-22 14:45 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 07:32 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-21 10:05 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 14:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-21 14:25 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-21 20:26 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 23:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 16:27 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 21:14 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 21:14 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 16:31 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 13:13 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 08:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 16:30 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 13:57 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-21 14:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:07 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-22 14:40 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 07:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 14:58 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 08:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-23 13:54 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 07:39 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-24 00:34 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-25 12:36 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-27 14:57 +0100
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 21:38 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:28 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 02:29 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 23:23 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 12:21 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 07:08 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 14:53 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 08:38 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 20:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 21:39 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 10:10 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 20:43 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 16:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-25 15:11 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-26 05:10 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 07:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 14:53 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 10:12 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 20:43 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 16:20 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 20:25 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 21:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 22:15 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 10:33 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 10:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-23 11:15 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-22 17:22 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-22 10:35 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean Relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 12:54 -0700

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