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Re: Newton and Galilean relativity

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Newton and Galilean relativity
Date 2018-06-30 16:40 +0000
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Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 1:36:06 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 9:22:56 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 6:11:18 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 3:27:34 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 11:09:52 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 6:55:40 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Python <python@python.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 at 9:42:40 PM UTC-7, Python wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid dishonest idiot Robert Winn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I do not see it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We know Robert. You cannot see much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can see there is no length contraction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Back in the days the Church couldn't see that Earth was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orbiting the Sun too. You are in good company in denial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we’ve talked about this before, Robert. The change to heliocentrism
>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn’t arise from somebody’s spontaneous realization and firm conviction
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the Earth went around the Sun. What was convincing was observational
>>>>>>>>>>>>> data that was consistent with heliocentrism and inconsistent with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> geocentrism. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now in the present case, you appear to be seized by the spontaneous
>>>>>>>>>>>>> realization and firm conviction that lengths do not contract. This despite
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the convincing observational data that is consistent with length
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contraction and inconsistent with the absence of length contraction. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you think really hard about this, you might be able to discern the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, the belief in a length contraction seems very similar to me to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> former belief of science in epicycles for the orbits of planets. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Something was obviously wrong, but scientists could predict the positions
>>>>>>>>>>>> of planets very accurately. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> When you say the epicycle system was OBVIOUSLY wrong, what made that
>>>>>>>>>>> obvious? Do you think it was some internal conviction that it is wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Same with length contraction, which you say is obviously wrong, even though
>>>>>>>>>>> data are in agreement with it. So what’s your basis for saying it is
>>>>>>>>>>> obviously wrong? An internal conviction?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, an internal conviction.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Oh well, Robert, there’s the problem. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You see, the adoption of heliocentrism was not based on internal
>>>>>>>>> convictions. It was based on data. You may have a basic misunderstanding of
>>>>>>>>> science history. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> As for length contraction, again the data run counter to your internal
>>>>>>>>> convictions. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Now, this may not matter to you. You may place higher stock on your
>>>>>>>>> internal convictions than you do on data. That works well for some people.
>>>>>>>>> Not so much with scientists though. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just as a thought, Robert.... People who rely very heavily on their
>>>>>>>> internal convictions often think they are right far often than they really
>>>>>>>> are. They are also able to learn less than others, simply because they do
>>>>>>>> not regard well new information that conflicts with their previously held
>>>>>>>> convictions. It may be a little late for you to reconsider your mindset,
>>>>>>>> and people are likely used to you being the way you are anyway. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Most of what I learn about relativity I learn when a scientist lets
>>>>>>> something slip that they were probably not allowed to say outside of
>>>>>>> their closed system of information.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What does this have to do with your reliance on your internal convictions
>>>>>> rather than on data?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For example, a scientist was showing off his great knowledge of
>>>>>>> velocities in Einstein's calculations.  He said Einstein figured
>>>>>>> velocities in Special relativity this way.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You say this was revealed to you by a scientist letting slip this
>>>>>> information from his closed system of information. But I have seen that
>>>>>> same information provided to you by that scientist, in at least a half
>>>>>> dozen books I got at the public library. Can you explain to me how a public
>>>>>> library is a closed system of scientific information?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I do not rely very heavily on this, but it shows me that the reverence
>>>>>>> and adoration that scientists have for the length contraction is
>>>>>>> probably misplaced.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What reverence are you referring to? Length contraction is supported by
>>>>>> observational data. Is observing revering? Is a belief in wombats a
>>>>>> reverence for the idea of wombats, if you’ve actually seen a wombat?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, but you have never actually seen a length contract.  All you have
>>>>> is a scientific theory which I have already disproven.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That is not true, Robert. I have looked up, read, and digested documented
>>>> experimental findings that have shown how length contraction exhibits
>>>> itself in measurements. I’m aware that you have not taken this step. I’m
>>>> aware that you are basically uninterested in taking this step, perhaps just
>>>> so that you can believe that it is all theoretical supposition, something
>>>> believed in only as an internal conviction, just as you believe oppositely
>>>> out of internal conviction. 
>>>> 
>>>> The lesson here is that most people do not come to conclusions about length
>>>> contraction the way you do. Most people use data to inform their
>>>> conclusions, and you don’t. It’s pretty simple. 
>>> 
>>> I told you I was using the Galilean transformation equations.  Now you
>>> seem to be saying you are surprised that I am using the Galilean
>>> transformation equations.
>>> 
>> 
>> What you use for equations has nothing to do with referring to experimental
>> data to come to conclusions about length contraction. 
>> 
>> Maybe, Robert, you don’t even have a really clear idea about what
>> experimental evidence means. Or maybe you’d like to deflect on that point
>> too. 
>> 
> Certainly.  Tycho Brahe and Johannes Kepler made astronomical
> observations and recorded their findings.  They did not agree on what the
> findings meant, but they worked together to make an accurate recording of
> what they observed, nonetheless.  So where are the people in
> sci.physics.relativity who do that?  

They aren’t here. They record their observations in places stored in
libraries and elsewhere on the internet, but unfortunately not on
sci.physics.relativity where you would prefer to have them spoon-fed to
you. However, you’ve been given suggestions for where to find them on the
internet, with extremely simple instructions that a third grader can
execute. You complain that the information that appears is too long to read
or that you’re just not interested in those findings after all. 

> I seem to be the only one, but I have to refer back to the findings of
> Johannes Kepler, not to the findings of modern scientists.  Modern
> scientists are too busy identifying people who do not believe in a length
> contraction and silencing them to do anything else.  If I mention
> Johannes Kepler and his findings, I am told that he could never have
> calculated the speed of the planet Mercury in its orbit because he lived
> in the fifteenth century and did not know that the radius of earth's
> orbit was 93,000,000 miles.  Even when I show that Kepler calculated the
> speed of Mercury in its  orbit to be .028 A.U. per day, which is 30 miles
> per second, I am told that is unacceptable because he did not know about
> the earth being 93,000,000 miles from the sun.  
So, obviously, I am never going to agree with modern scientists and their
length contraction.  
> What I can do is start studying the works of scientists like Galileo,
> Kepler, and Newton, who were more interested in science than in political domination.  
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-24 00:24 +0200
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 08:16 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 08:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 16:08 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 10:02 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-26 12:55 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 13:38 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-26 14:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 15:01 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-26 18:52 -0400
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 16:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-26 20:26 -0400
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 18:50 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-26 22:13 -0400
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 23:20 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-28 17:07 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-28 18:42 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-28 20:01 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-28 21:51 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 00:01 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 11:09 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 11:17 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 13:12 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 14:07 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 17:11 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 19:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 20:12 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 20:21 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 22:07 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 21:05 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 22:10 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 23:12 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 05:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-30 14:51 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 06:01 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-30 15:40 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 07:45 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 16:24 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 09:39 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 17:10 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 12:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 21:08 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 14:32 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 22:47 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 23:48 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 05:59 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 16:24 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 09:41 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 16:55 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 12:16 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 21:08 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 14:29 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-30 11:14 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 12:40 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-30 18:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 22:33 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-01 00:04 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 06:51 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-01 10:52 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 13:02 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-01 14:24 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 21:39 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 16:37 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 01:24 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 19:31 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 17:05 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-01 18:22 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 18:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-01 20:26 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 22:57 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 08:43 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 09:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 14:03 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 15:22 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 18:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 21:13 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 22:16 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 04:30 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-03 05:03 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 15:11 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-03 17:14 +0200
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 08:18 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-03 18:58 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 00:25 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-04 09:04 -0400
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 10:16 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-04 13:44 -0400
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 13:31 -0700

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