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Re: Newton and Galilean relativity

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Newton and Galilean relativity
Date 2018-06-29 20:36 +0000
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Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 9:22:56 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 6:11:18 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 3:27:34 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 11:09:52 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 6:55:40 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Python <python@python.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Winn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 at 9:42:40 PM UTC-7, Python wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid dishonest idiot Robert Winn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I do not see it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We know Robert. You cannot see much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can see there is no length contraction.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Back in the days the Church couldn't see that Earth was
>>>>>>>>>>>> orbiting the Sun too. You are in good company in denial
>>>>>>>>>>>> of facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I think we’ve talked about this before, Robert. The change to heliocentrism
>>>>>>>>>>> didn’t arise from somebody’s spontaneous realization and firm conviction
>>>>>>>>>>> that the Earth went around the Sun. What was convincing was observational
>>>>>>>>>>> data that was consistent with heliocentrism and inconsistent with
>>>>>>>>>>> geocentrism. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Now in the present case, you appear to be seized by the spontaneous
>>>>>>>>>>> realization and firm conviction that lengths do not contract. This despite
>>>>>>>>>>> the convincing observational data that is consistent with length
>>>>>>>>>>> contraction and inconsistent with the absence of length contraction. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If you think really hard about this, you might be able to discern the
>>>>>>>>>>> difference. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Well, the belief in a length contraction seems very similar to me to the
>>>>>>>>>> former belief of science in epicycles for the orbits of planets. 
>>>>>>>>>> Something was obviously wrong, but scientists could predict the positions
>>>>>>>>>> of planets very accurately. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> When you say the epicycle system was OBVIOUSLY wrong, what made that
>>>>>>>>> obvious? Do you think it was some internal conviction that it is wrong?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Same with length contraction, which you say is obviously wrong, even though
>>>>>>>>> data are in agreement with it. So what’s your basis for saying it is
>>>>>>>>> obviously wrong? An internal conviction?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, an internal conviction.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Oh well, Robert, there’s the problem. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You see, the adoption of heliocentrism was not based on internal
>>>>>>> convictions. It was based on data. You may have a basic misunderstanding of
>>>>>>> science history. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As for length contraction, again the data run counter to your internal
>>>>>>> convictions. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now, this may not matter to you. You may place higher stock on your
>>>>>>> internal convictions than you do on data. That works well for some people.
>>>>>>> Not so much with scientists though. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just as a thought, Robert.... People who rely very heavily on their
>>>>>> internal convictions often think they are right far often than they really
>>>>>> are. They are also able to learn less than others, simply because they do
>>>>>> not regard well new information that conflicts with their previously held
>>>>>> convictions. It may be a little late for you to reconsider your mindset,
>>>>>> and people are likely used to you being the way you are anyway. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Most of what I learn about relativity I learn when a scientist lets
>>>>> something slip that they were probably not allowed to say outside of
>>>>> their closed system of information.
>>>> 
>>>> What does this have to do with your reliance on your internal convictions
>>>> rather than on data?
>>>> 
>>>>> For example, a scientist was showing off his great knowledge of
>>>>> velocities in Einstein's calculations.  He said Einstein figured
>>>>> velocities in Special relativity this way.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You say this was revealed to you by a scientist letting slip this
>>>> information from his closed system of information. But I have seen that
>>>> same information provided to you by that scientist, in at least a half
>>>> dozen books I got at the public library. Can you explain to me how a public
>>>> library is a closed system of scientific information?
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do not rely very heavily on this, but it shows me that the reverence
>>>>> and adoration that scientists have for the length contraction is probably misplaced.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What reverence are you referring to? Length contraction is supported by
>>>> observational data. Is observing revering? Is a belief in wombats a
>>>> reverence for the idea of wombats, if you’ve actually seen a wombat?
>>> 
>>> Well, but you have never actually seen a length contract.  All you have
>>> is a scientific theory which I have already disproven.
>>> 
>> 
>> That is not true, Robert. I have looked up, read, and digested documented
>> experimental findings that have shown how length contraction exhibits
>> itself in measurements. I’m aware that you have not taken this step. I’m
>> aware that you are basically uninterested in taking this step, perhaps just
>> so that you can believe that it is all theoretical supposition, something
>> believed in only as an internal conviction, just as you believe oppositely
>> out of internal conviction. 
>> 
>> The lesson here is that most people do not come to conclusions about length
>> contraction the way you do. Most people use data to inform their
>> conclusions, and you don’t. It’s pretty simple. 
> 
> I told you I was using the Galilean transformation equations.  Now you
> seem to be saying you are surprised that I am using the Galilean transformation equations.
> 

What you use for equations has nothing to do with referring to experimental
data to come to conclusions about length contraction. 

Maybe, Robert, you don’t even have a really clear idea about what
experimental evidence means. Or maybe you’d like to deflect on that point
too. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-24 00:24 +0200
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-25 05:28 +0200
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-24 16:36 +0200
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-25 05:32 +0200
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-25 04:18 +0200
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 23:17 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 20:40 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-06-26 06:22 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 15:29 +0000
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-28 18:42 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-06-28 21:51 -0700
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-03 05:03 -0700
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 15:11 +0000
                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-03 17:14 +0200
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                Re: Newton and Galilean relativity hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-03 18:58 -0700
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