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Re: Particle physics 2

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: Particle physics 2
Date 2018-06-08 20:43 +0000
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Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 6/7/2018 12:39 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <numbernumber1964@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The masses of the subatomic particles are measured using the curve paths
>>> of the liquid hydrogen bubble tracks within the bubble chamber that
>>> established particle physics. Initially, an accelerated proton beam is
>>> incident to an external metallic target that collision produces subatomic
>>> particles that propagate through the steel enclosure of the bubble
>>> chamber and interact with the hydrogen atoms forming the hydrogen bubble
>>> tracks but the subatomic particles that have a mass cannot propagate
>>> through the steel enclosure of the bubble chamber without producing a
>>> hole in the bubble chamber and causing an explosion of the liquid
>>> hydrogen. Rutherford's gold foil experiment is used to justify subatomic
>>> particles propagating through the bubble chamber but Rutherford's alpha
>>> particles cannot propagate through a quarter inch thick steel plate.
>>> Muons produced by the atmospheric decay of cosmic rays are also used to
>>> justify subatomic particles propagating through the steel enclosure of
>>> the bubble chamber but a muon is 200 times more massive than an electron.
>>> A 2000 W arc welder's electron beam can cut and weld steel. A high
>>> density of high energy muons propagating through the steel enclosure of
>>> the bubble chamber would result in the formation of a hole in the bubble
>>> chamber and a hydrogen explosion. The Soudan muon detector that is
>>> located at the bottom of a 1,800 meters deep mine shaft (Ayre, p. 2) is
>>> used to justify subatomic particles propagating through the steel
>>> enclosure of the bubble chamber but a muon that has a mass larger than an
>>> electron cannot propagate through more than 1,400 meters of bedrock. It
>>> is more likely that the Soudan muon detector is detecting radioactive
>>> isotopes that exist at the bottom of the former Soudan iron mine. The
>>> CERN Large Hadron Collider LHC (2017) describes a hadron (proton) beam
>>> that is accelerated using a beam pipe and superconducting magnets but a
>>> magnetic field does not accelerate protons. Using an analogy, a
>>> solenoid's magnetic force alters the position of the iron armature but
>>> solenoid's magnetic field does not affect the position of wood chips,
>>> charged dust particles or protons. The cyclotron is used to justify the
>>> acceleration of the hadron beam. The cyclotron accelerates protons and
>>> alpha particles where the cyclotron particles are accelerated using an
>>> electric potential between two halves of the cyclotron semi-circle metal
>>> apparatus but the cyclotron charged particles would be attracted to the
>>> charged semi-circle metallic apparatus preventing the acceleration of the
>>> protons or alpha particles. Using an analogy, an electron beam of an arc
>>> welder is formed when the electrons are propagating from towards a
>>> positive charged anode and collide with the positive charged surface yet
>>> the Lawence Livermore cyclotron depicts the particle beam with a blue
>>> colored light emission. The LHC experiment is based on hadron beams
>>> consisting of disassociated hydrogen gas molecules but the disassociation
>>> of hydrogen would result in an extremely unstable protons. Proton beam
>>> therapy is used to justify the existence of a proton beam but protons
>>> that have a mass 1,000 times greater than an electron would destroy human
>>> skin, bone and tissue in the path of the proton beam similar to the
>>> affects of an arch welder. It is more likely that gamma rays are
>>> producing the effects of proton beam therapy. The LHC 27 km circumference
>>> beam pipe and superconducting magnets do not accelerate the proton beam
>>> since a magnetic field effects metal objects such as a carpenter nail,
>>> paper clip or iron filings. A magnet does not affect the position of wood
>>> chips, charged dust particles or protons. The RF cavity is used to
>>> accelerate the protons but the electric field of the RF cavity would
>>> result in the protons to collided with the negative surface. It is
>>> questionable what is the purposed of the 27 km circumference beam pipe
>>> and superconducting magnets since the RF cavity is ostensibly
>>> accelerating the protons not the 27 km circumference beam pipe and
>>> magnets. It would have been much cheaper to build a series of RF cavities
>>> facing each other and eliminating the extremely expensive 27 km
>>> circumference beam pipe and superconducting magnets. The two accelerated
>>> proton beams propagate through the 27 km circumference beam pipe and are
>>> combined within the Atlas particle physics detector which is used to form
>>> the images of the two proton beam's collision that is used to justify the
>>> existence of subatomic particles but the the detector is composed of
>>> concentric metal cylinders around the interaction point where the proton
>>> beams collision occurs but the concentric cylinders are composed of metal
>>> (matter). The subatomic particles that are composed of matter cannot
>>> propagate through the detector cylinders without producing a holes in the
>>> metallic cylinders and destroying the detector.  
>>> 
>> 
>> It may be of interest you (maybe not) that your understanding of the
>> history of particle physics is very limited to the point of being wholesale
>> wrong. 
>> 
>> Muons, mesons, and non-nucleon baryons were initially discovered in cosmic
>> ray experiments, most notably by using mountaintop and balloon detectors,
>> and not particle accelerators. Secondly, the detectors used during that
>> discovery phase were electroscopes, cloud chambers, spark chambers, and
>> photo emulsions, not bubble chambers. The use of bubble chambers at
>> particle accelerators only took off after the existence of a lot of those
>> particles was already firmly established. 
>> 
>> A little knowledge is an abettor of foolishness. 
>> 
> 
> an excellent book is "Cosmic Rays" by Leprince-Ringuet, 1950 (orgionally
> in french), they show highly advanced could chambers and how to
> calculate what the particals are, many examples, excellent book.
> 

Carlo Rossi’s book on Cosmic Rays from the 1960s is even better. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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