Re: Particle Physics

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Particle Physics
Date	2018-05-30 14:42 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> MM
>> You don't HAVE a model. 
> 
> You should talk. You haven't come up with any science model yet, not even 
> after you've been asked for one for YEARS. All you have ar”
> All I have is the Universal Fractal, where galaxies are made out of
> self-similar structures called atoms and atoms are made out of
> self-similar structures called...what should we call them Michael?
> I also have the pattern for all Matter: the 1:2 rotation:
>  http://users.accesscomm.ca/sefton/2electronorbital.GIF 
> I also have the pattern for all photons: 
>  http://users.accescpmm.ca/sefton/PHOTON.GIF
>  which is a 1:1 rotation
> I also found the math underlying the 1:2 pattern if you want to see it?
> 
> But that-all isn’t a model to you, is it? Obscure probability math and a
> bunch (1000s) of bubble chamber somethings are what you like. And you
> can’t even draw a picture of how you think they fit together, because in
> QM, everybody’s is everywhere all the time and nobody can know anything
> until they look. Right Michael?
> 

John, let’s reiterate that “You don’t HAVE a model” is a repeated lie, one
that has been called out many times and one that you yourself have
recanted.   

What is true is that physical models exhibit what physicists value and not
what you value. The key difference is that you do not understand much of
the language that is used in physical models — at all — and this is somehow
their problem and not yours. 

I’ll repeat: physics models do not have to be clear and transparent to the
uneducated. That is true for ANY specialized field. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Particle Physics numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-05-25 10:16 -0700
  Re: Particle Physics Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-25 15:54 -0400
    Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 19:52 -0700
      Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 01:11 -0700
      Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 18:15 +0000
        Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 12:58 -0700
          Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 21:42 +0000
            Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 14:54 -0700
              Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-28 23:45 +0000
              Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 23:59 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 05:44 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-29 12:55 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 06:07 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 13:15 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 06:51 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 15:07 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 08:26 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 08:32 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 08:38 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 08:41 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 08:34 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 16:05 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-29 16:48 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 10:52 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 18:09 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 11:14 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 18:33 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 11:54 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-29 19:07 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 12:34 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 19:53 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 13:33 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 21:11 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 15:42 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 23:03 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 16:28 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-30 04:48 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 22:39 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 06:39 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 14:42 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 07:57 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 15:39 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-31 17:13 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 03:15 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-01 11:43 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 05:47 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 13:00 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-01 23:54 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-30 04:37 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 06:58 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 19:47 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 13:28 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 21:11 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-30 04:30 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 16:34 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 18:32 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-29 18:57 +0000
                For most, SciFi is preferable. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 15:17 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-29 18:12 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 13:15 +0000
        Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 21:13 -0700
      Re: Particle Physics mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 15:11 -0700
  Re: Particle Physics Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 14:55 -0700
    Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 21:18 -0700
  Re: Particle Physics numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 10:03 -0700
  Re: Particle Physics numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-04 14:50 -0700
  Re: Particle Physics numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-04 15:45 -0700

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