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Re: Particle Physics

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Particle Physics
Date 2018-05-31 17:13 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>">You don't HAVE a model.

>You should talk. You haven't come up with any science model yet, not even
>after you've been asked for one for YEARS. All you have ar"
>All I have is the Universal Fractal, where galaxies are made out of 
>self-similar structures called atoms and atoms are made out of 
>self-similar structures called...what should we call them Michael?

How about stupid?

So so far you have an IDEA, from which you are unable to develop a
scientific model, despite people asking you for one for years!

>I also have the pattern for all Matter: the 1:2 rotation:

Another idea not developed into a model. Specifically it explains
NOTHING and creates all sorts of unnecessary physics laws violations.
(which need to be addressed in your model, if you ever develop one)

>I also have the pattern for all photons:
> http://users.accescpmm.ca/sefton/PHOTON.GIF
> which is a 1:1 rotation

Again, another idea not developed into a model. Also with more physics
laws violations that need to be addressed in your never-forthcoming model.

>I also found the math underlying the 1:2 pattern if you want to see it?

Make it part of your model (if you ever create it!), sure, but your model
will have to be good enough such that it isn't immediately rejected as
unworkable.

>But that-all isn't a model to you, is it?

Nope, no explanations, no problems supposedly fixed, no explanation about
apparent physics law violations, no proposed experiments that would show
your proposal correct and standard physics incorrect (or vice versa)
Remember, any NEW model has to be AT LEAST AS GOOD as existing models
at explaining what we can already see/measure/test for. For example, any
NEW model of gravity doesn't just have to describe the path of a baseball,
it would need to predict the precession of Mercury accurately.


> Obscure probability math 
>and a bunch (1000s) of bubble chamber somethings are what you like.

But there, someone noticed a pattern, and developed a preliminary model
where he predicted if you do certain explicit parameters, you'll see a NEW
particle with a particular mass, charge and particular other properties.
Well guess what. They did use those particular parameters and shortly they
DID discover a new particle with the predicted mass, charge etc. The
Omega-. Look up "Omega Minus" and "Eightfold Way" for more details (if you
are brave enough to actually read anything)

> And you can't even draw a picture of how you think they fit together, 

You mentioned bubble chambers. Why not print out a few bubble chamber
photos and you can color them?

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  Re: Particle Physics Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-25 15:54 -0400
    Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 19:52 -0700
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      Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 18:15 +0000
        Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 12:58 -0700
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            Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 14:54 -0700
              Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-28 23:45 +0000
              Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 23:59 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 05:44 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-29 12:55 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 06:07 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 13:15 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 06:51 -0700
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                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 08:34 -0700
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                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-29 16:48 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 10:52 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 18:09 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 11:14 -0700
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                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 11:54 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-29 19:07 +0000
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                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 19:53 +0000
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                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 16:28 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-30 04:48 +0000
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                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 06:39 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 14:42 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 07:57 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 15:39 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-31 17:13 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 03:15 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-01 11:43 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 05:47 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 13:00 +0000
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                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-30 04:37 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 06:58 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 19:47 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 13:28 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 21:11 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-30 04:30 +0000
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                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 18:32 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-29 18:57 +0000
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