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Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity?

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Why does gravity have to be transmitted through particles when gravity isn't a force in general relativity?
Date	2018-05-29 22:33 +0000
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 12:05:36 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 8:00:00 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 5:14:46 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 12:53:17 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 9:14:50 AM UTC-4, rotchm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 10:41:14 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 11:01:21 AM UTC-4, rotchm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey moron, go look it up yourself. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I did. Did you?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I did....
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Then why didnt you provide its definition here as requested? 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Moron, I did. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I gave you the definition for a centrifuge 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> But that is NOT what I asked. I asked for the definition of 
>>>>>>>>>> "centrifugal force> and NOT a "centrifuge". Those are two different expressions. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Moron there is no such thing as a centrifugal force or centripetal force.
>>>>>>>>> Gee you are stupid. There are four forces of nature: gravity, EM, nuclear
>>>>>>>>> strong and weak forces.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Good grief. 
>>>>>>>> Completely ignoring friction, the air lift that keeps airplanes up,
>>>>>>>> buoyancy, the force a spring exerts, etc, etc, etc.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Moron...These are all drives from the four basic forces.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes they are the fundamental forces. But nobody — nobody — would make the
>>>>>> idiotic mistake of saying friction does not exist, buoyancy does not exist.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Moron, I didn’t say that they don’t exist. I said that they are all
>>>>> derived from the four fundamental force.
>>>> 
>>>> See your words right above. “...no such thing...”
>>> 
>>> That’s right. There is no such thing as centripetal or centrifugal
>>> forces. There are centripetal and centrifugal accelerations and both are
>>> caused by the attractive or repulsive EM force.tripedtal
>> 
>> A centripetal force is any force toward the center. Are you saying it is
>> impossible for any force to be toward the center?
> 
> 
> No I am saying that the EM attractive gravitational force causes the
> centripetal acceleration. That in combination with the repulsive effect
> force exists between the interacting objects causes the stable orbiting motion.

Newton’s second law says that any acceleration is due to a (net) force in
the direction of the acceleration and given by F=ma. 

Thus this says that if there is a centripetal acceleration (an acceleration
toward the center), then there is a centripetal force (a force toward the
center). 

If you’d like to say that, because you have the benefit of having never
once studied physics, you know that Newton’s laws are all wrong, then you
are free to entertain that lunacy. Not one soul will pay any serious
attention to you except to mock you for it. 

>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Your move. Use those loose nuts. 
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In the case of the so called centripetal force (centripetal acceleration)
>>>>>>> is derived from the attractive gravity force. Buoyancy is a form of
>>>>>>> gravity force and spring exerts is a form of EM force.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Those are wrong. Bzzzt. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
>>>>> Buzz....you are full of shit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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