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Re: Particle Physics

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Particle Physics
Date 2018-05-29 21:11 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “everything could be explained simply to 
> people even without training, there would be NO NEED for higher education, ”
> ABSOLUTELY total bullshit!!!!!
> EVERYONE competent at their job can explain EXACTLY what and why they are
> doing to ANYONE!!!

I disagree. 

A surgeon can explain what he’s doing but not why in the detail that offers
understanding. Same is true for a chemical engineer or an architect or an
applied mathematician. 

There are of course popularizations that try to make some things marginally
understandable. Like Brian Greene’s books or Lisa Randall’s. But those are
BOOKS, which you won’t spend the time to read. 

If you ask ANY expert what they’re doing in a way that offers decent
understanding and in a paragraph or less, you’re going to get a brief
statement shrouded in a significant amount of mystery along with a big dose
of “you’re going to have to trust me”.

You apparently have no concept why advanced training in these subjects is
needed. It’s not because they are practicing simple things until they’re
good at them. It’s because there’s a lot of stuff to LEARN. 

Did you go to college, John? Do you have a degree in any particular
subject? With that degree do you think you could be a professional in that
area? If not, what do you think marks the difference for those who can be a
pro?  

> A surgeon can comment on every cut he makes, but he sure isn’t going to
> hand YOU the scalpel.
> Watch the guy on TV paint his picture- now you think YOU can? ???
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Particle Physics numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-05-25 10:16 -0700
  Re: Particle Physics Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-25 15:54 -0400
    Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 19:52 -0700
      Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 01:11 -0700
      Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 18:15 +0000
        Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 12:58 -0700
          Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 21:42 +0000
            Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 14:54 -0700
              Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-28 23:45 +0000
              Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 23:59 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 05:44 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-29 12:55 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 06:07 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 13:15 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 06:51 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 15:07 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 08:26 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 08:32 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 08:38 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 08:41 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 08:34 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 16:05 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-29 16:48 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 10:52 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 18:09 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 11:14 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 18:33 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 11:54 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-29 19:07 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 12:34 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 19:53 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 13:33 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 21:11 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 15:42 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 23:03 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 16:28 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-30 04:48 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 22:39 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 06:39 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 14:42 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 07:57 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 15:39 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-31 17:13 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 03:15 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-01 11:43 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 05:47 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 13:00 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-01 23:54 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-30 04:37 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 06:58 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 19:47 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 13:28 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 21:11 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-30 04:30 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 16:34 -0700
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 18:32 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-29 18:57 +0000
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                Re: Particle Physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-29 18:12 +0000
                Re: Particle Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 13:15 +0000
        Re: Particle Physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 21:13 -0700
      Re: Particle Physics mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 15:11 -0700
  Re: Particle Physics Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 14:55 -0700
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  Re: Particle Physics numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 10:03 -0700
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