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Re: The Origin of Gravity

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: The Origin of Gravity
Date 2018-05-23 21:58 +0000
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benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 5/23/2018 11:19 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>> On 5/23/2018 9:31 AM, john wrote:
>>>> Odd
>>>> “If you think kinetic energy is a term I made up, then you missed out on
>>>> high school ..”
>>>> What does ‘kinetic’ mean to you, Odd?
>>>> 
>>> He doesn't know, John.
>>> 
>>> Obviously Kinetic energy is just one more of
>>> Odd's fantasies like gravity "Pulls".
>>> 
>>> Obviously Kinetic energy does not exist because if some object is flying
>>> by you it clearly has lots of 'kinetic energy". Yet if you jump in a
>>> plane and catch up to it as you look out the window at it, it has ZERO
>>> kinetic energy. So how can this same material object possess both large
>>> amounts of "energy" and yet depending how you look at it possess none?
>>> Clearly "kinetic energy" can only be a fantasy and illusion.
>>> 
>> 
>> Because in physics, everything that is frame dependent is not real? Is
>> there some physics axiom about that? Or was the chain just really handy for
>> yanking?
>> 
> You still don't get it, Odd.
> Fantasies are things that change with what you think about them.
> Things that are REAL may change their APPEARANCE depending upon your 
> conditions, but their essence does not depend in any way upon you.
> And certainly does not depend upon YOUR state of motion.

Is this “essence” a physics term or a metaphysics one? 



> 
> This is the difference between fantasy and reality. John will explain it 
> to you.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-19 23:43 -0700
  Re: The Origin of Gravity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-20 14:28 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-20 18:01 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 14:11 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 05:07 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 12:45 +0000
            Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 06:31 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 13:39 +0000
              Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 10:49 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 15:19 +0000
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 17:52 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 21:58 +0000
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 20:56 -0400
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  Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 19:13 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 01:55 -0400
      Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 01:31 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-05-24 10:26 +0100
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            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:32 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 08:54 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:30 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 11:54 -0400
          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 16:52 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 20:40 -0400
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 22:22 -0700
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        Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 08:55 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-05-29 20:13 +0200
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    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 17:21 -0700
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      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 14:17 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 14:34 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 18:20 -0400
          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 13:32 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 15:18 -0700
  Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-27 15:48 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 15:54 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-27 20:23 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-27 20:27 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 06:43 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 10:35 -0700
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              Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 20:11 -0400
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          Re: The Origin of Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-28 18:35 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 15:57 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 16:22 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-27 20:07 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 11:21 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-28 14:54 -0400
          Re: The Origin of Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 13:25 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 17:39 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 21:05 -0700
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          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 15:57 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 23:40 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-29 09:12 -0700
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                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 12:04 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-01 23:43 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 13:17 -0700
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                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 15:04 -0700
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                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 13:07 -0700
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                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 11:33 -0700
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          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 01:13 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 10:09 -0400
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 10:27 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 14:53 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 01:36 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 14:08 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 15:16 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> - 2018-05-30 11:40 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 20:35 -0400
            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 21:49 -0400
        Re: The Origin of Gravity Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-05-29 22:20 +1000
          Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 07:19 -0700
            Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 08:37 -0700
              Time == Entropy. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 09:44 -0700
            Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 13:23 -0400
              Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 10:28 -0700
                Re: Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 19:59 -0400
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      Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 02:10 -0400
        Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-31 12:54 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 17:18 -0400
            Re: The Origin of Gravity Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-06-01 16:18 +1000
            Re: The Origin of Gravity Vaughn Fleck <guah@nhnw.nc> - 2018-06-01 20:00 +0000
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    Re: The Origin of Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-31 10:44 -0700

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