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Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist)

From Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist)
Date 2018-05-16 18:08 +0200
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Doomsdrzej wrote:

> On Tue, 15 May 2018 20:39:34 +0200, Peter Köhlmann
> <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> 
>>chrisv wrote:
>>
>>> -hh wrote:
>>> 
>>>>The Snowflake protesth too much....
>>> 
>>> Hey, -highhorse, who, here, claimed that LibreOffice/OpenOffice is
>>> "100% compatible" with MS-Office?
>>
>>Well, it isn't 100%. But pretty close.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
>>And it works way better to export OO-files to MS-format than the other way
>>around (import OO-files from MSO)
>>Not to talk about the *much* better capabilities of OO or LO for
>>Macro-works compared to MSO. MSO is just plain shite when it comes to
>>Macros in Documents
> 
> I wouldn't know but I'll confidently take your word for it. 

6 month ago I had to build an application for a client. When it was done 
there came 2 new requests: Build the document handling for MSO (was done by 
LO), and switch the database from MySQL to PostGreSQL
The database switching was relativly easy. The document was a lot of work, 
with parts which are handled extremely poorly by MSO

The documents have dozens of graphics which need to be replaced for the 
actual needed ones based on th eoutput of the application. Also text has to 
be replaced, in one document about 2000 replacements of text

The graphics part was pure, unadultered shite with MSO. On OO/LO every 
grapphics in a document has a name and a path. You can reference it by name, 
and you can alter the path to replace it on the fly with a different one.
On MSO, tha name still exists, but then you can not alter any path.
If you want to alter the path, you have to use a completely different 
method, where you can access the grpahic only by index, not any name
And the function is slow, compared to LO

The text replacement functions work nearly the same in LO and MSO, only the 
speed it vastly different. The document with around 2000 text replacements 
runs in 11 seconds on LO (loading and new rendering with new grphics 
included). The exact same looking document on MSO needs 180 seconds.

Another point is: You can start as many docs with Macros as you want with 
OO/LO.
If you do the same with MSO, the first document is done correctly. All 
following are done without any macros running, i.e. not at all.
You actually have to wait until the first one is done, then you can start 
the next one. Only possible way to circumvent that is to start new instances 
of Word for each document, which will eat memory faster than you can blink 
at. Unuseable shite.

> All I know
> is that I've never really faced an issue with LibreOffice so far other
> than the rotations that Michael Glasser, vermin of Prescott, Arizona
> mentioned. However, your workaround of simply rotating the image
> elsewhere in the suite, despite being somewhat cumbersome in
> comparison, does the job. 

There is a plugin for OO/LO which rotates images by any angle you want
I have yet to actually use it. It works fine, but I fail to have use cases 
for it. 

> I believe LibreOffice Draw was what was
> proposed. 

Works, takes 2 mouseclicks more than directly rotating it. Or use the plugin

> Clearly, Pages and Word do a better job with the rotations

No, they do not. You take Snit Michael Glassers word for it. As he lies even 
when the truth would be better, you get lies. And lies. And lies

He knows absolutely nothing about the stuff he is blubbering about. He just 
claims to know. In reality he has no idea, as he has never used any linux 
software long enough (and recent enough) to have even a scant idea about its 
capabilities

> but I'm wondering if that's worth the price tag if it is one of the
> few benefits that it provides.

There is no benefit. The plugin costs as much as OO/LO
And does a fine job (if you are foolishly enough to rotate images 
nillywilly)
 
>>> Who, here, claimed that GIMP is "equal to" Photoshop?
>>
>>For the majority of users it is better than PhotoShop, as it does not have
>>that steep learning curve to be mastered
>>It is naturally not "equal" to it.
> 
> Same as for LibreOffice, I find that GIMP does most of the job even
> though I tend to prefer Paint.NET for most tasks. Either way, the
> software is free and most users would be content with it rather that
> pay a crapload.

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More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-11 16:05 -0400
  More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-11 14:16 -0700
    Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-11 14:44 -0700
    Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-12 10:23 -0400
      Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 07:28 -0700
      Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-12 10:37 -0700
        Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-12 14:17 -0400
          Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-12 15:24 -0700
            Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-15 08:51 -0500
              Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 07:11 -0700
              Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-05-15 20:39 +0200
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 11:42 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 11:53 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-15 14:56 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 12:14 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-05-16 18:08 +0200
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-16 09:30 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-16 09:35 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 10:31 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 10:42 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-16 11:49 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 12:30 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-16 16:19 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-16 16:01 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-15 12:47 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 13:34 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 13:57 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-17 08:00 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 06:59 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-17 13:19 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-18 09:23 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2018-05-18 15:36 +0100
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-18 08:45 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-18 11:27 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-18 09:39 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 09:51 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 09:47 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 09:49 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 03:44 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 09:36 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-17 07:10 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-17 09:09 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-17 08:41 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 07:00 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 06:56 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 02:59 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 20:25 +0000
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 13:38 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-23 17:55 -0400
              Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 20:22 +0000
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 13:37 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-23 18:40 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 06:27 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-24 17:41 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-24 17:43 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 20:18 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 21:01 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 21:32 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 21:52 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 22:06 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 21:08 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-25 08:00 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-25 05:41 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-25 09:14 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) quatloo <quatloo@tribble.net> - 2018-05-25 09:14 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:18 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 10:26 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-25 16:45 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 14:13 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:30 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 10:48 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 10:59 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 11:11 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 11:25 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 11:45 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 13:23 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 14:16 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 07:51 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:14 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 14:34 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-25 12:45 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 14:48 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:14 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 07:01 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-25 06:22 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 08:50 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-25 07:21 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:27 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-25 16:42 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 14:05 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 20:04 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:28 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-25 16:41 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 14:25 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-25 15:42 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 15:46 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-26 11:48 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 09:01 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-26 09:06 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-26 12:11 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 09:17 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-26 19:21 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-27 09:07 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 06:34 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 09:16 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 20:22 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-29 07:03 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-29 08:05 -0400
                Andrzej Matuch averaged 6.8 Posts/Day, 216 last 30 days. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 06:23 -0700
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                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-29 07:56 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 08:47 -0700
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                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 05:22 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 13:26 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 11:30 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-25 12:28 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 14:35 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 14:42 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-25 12:48 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 14:48 -0500
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