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Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist)

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist)
Date	2018-05-16 16:01 -0700
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On 5/16/18 1:19 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
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> The way I see it, once you decide to produce any sort of document with
> MS software and you save it to one of their proprietary formats,
> you've essentially given away all power over that document from that
> point on. Clearly, you can continue editing it from within their
> software or something compatible, but the ability to examine and
> modify the finer details as you need to do is more or less impossible.

What proprietary formats do you mean? The current standard for MS Office 
is an open standard -- and they have used it for years.

> It's actually funny that we're discussing this since I'm at a private
> school now and I was talking with the technician who makes all
> technology-related suggestions to the administration at the school. We
> both argued that things would be easier if people chose open formats
> rather than insisting on using Apple formats or formats created by
> Apple-exclusive software, but the teachers who don't understand how
> much control they're giving away (or what they're locking themselves
> into) seem to be the biggest challenges he faces. He was happy to see
> that at least one teacher realizes that there is no freedom in
> adopting closed software or formats. I gave him some pointers on how
> to approach the administration to get them to adopt open formats but
> we'll see how far that goes. In private schools, at least here in
> Quebec, people seem to seek out "Apple certification" as if it's
> something to be proud of.

A couple of topics there:

* Yes: Apple formats are proprietary.
* Yes, it is good to be educated, and that what an Apple certification 
is (not that it is the only tech certification that matters or that one 
has to be educated in tech).

>>> All I know
>>> is that I've never really faced an issue with LibreOffice so far other
>>> than the rotations that Michael Glasser, vermin of Prescott, Arizona
>>> mentioned. However, your workaround of simply rotating the image
>>> elsewhere in the suite, despite being somewhat cumbersome in
>>> comparison, does the job.
>>
>> There is a plugin for OO/LO which rotates images by any angle you want
>> I have yet to actually use it. It works fine, but I fail to have use cases
>> for it.
> 
> Honestly, had Michael Glasser, vermin of Prescott, Arizona not pointed
> it out, I probably would never have noticed that LibreOffice Writer
> doesn't allow you to rotate an image being inserted into a document at
> any angle other than 90 degrees.

But many others had. And with LO 3 one of the big "selling" points is 
you can now rotate images at arbitrary angles.

You STILL cannot do so with direct selection (though likely the plug-in 
allows this) and you cannot move them in real time. The rotation is a 
bit jumpy but not too bad.

> I can see the use of it, but rare are
> the cases where a teacher needs for an image to be at a certain angle.

Depends on the topic, taste, etc. And, of course, if you use tools which 
make it harder are less likely to do it. There was active discussion on 
this in the bug tracker -- it clearly is a sought after feature.

> In the end, it's the information within the document that's important,
> not the aesthetics. If a Snit complained that he can't read a document
> because an image isn't "just so," I'd probably just remove images
> altogether from all documents I produce going forward to spite him.

If... key word. You were making odd speculations to push trolling.

> Only Michael Glasser, diseased rat of Prescott, Arizona truly cares
> about such trivial stuff.

Clearly others care:

<https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73797>

And it is one of the key updates they note in LO v6

<https://youtu.be/YHBve8v13VY?t=2m5s>

So this "non-problem" has not only been (to some extent) fixed, but it 
is seen as one of the key improvements in the new version (though to be 
fair there are certainly other features being highlighted more).

>>> I believe LibreOffice Draw was what was
>>> proposed.
>>
>> Works, takes 2 mouseclicks more than directly rotating it. Or use the plugin
> 
> *2* mouse clicks? But what about improved productivity and
> error-reduction?!

Keep in mind Peter has NO clue what he is talking about. None. He makes 
things up and ignores the actual issue.

>>> Clearly, Pages and Word do a better job with the rotations
>>
>> No, they do not. You take Snit Michael Glassers word for it. As he lies even
>> when the truth would be better, you get lies. And lies. And lies
>>
>> He knows absolutely nothing about the stuff he is blubbering about. He just
>> claims to know. In reality he has no idea, as he has never used any linux
>> software long enough (and recent enough) to have even a scant idea about its
>> capabilities
> 
> To his credit, he did show what he was referring to though we all had
> to sit through minutes of his irritating nasal voice to see it.

Ah, you cannot help but push insults as you admit you know I am right. 
LOL! Keep in mind YOUR reaction when you first say how easy it was on 
Pages: you were ready to go buy a Mac! I showed you it can also be done 
on Word, even if not quite as smoothly.

> I'll have to try it out myself to get the best idea but I sincerely
> doubt that you're wrong.

Of course he is wrong. He is on almost every tech thing he says.

He is more right on politics... and you loath his views on that. :)

>>> but I'm wondering if that's worth the price tag if it is one of the
>>> few benefits that it provides.
>>
>> There is no benefit. The plugin costs as much as OO/LO
>> And does a fine job (if you are foolishly enough to rotate images
>> nillywilly)
> 
> It's all people who live in Prescott, Arizona do with their whole days
> when they're not trolling Usenet.

As is his norm, Peter has NO clue what he is talking about in terms of 
tech. None.

Peter shows NO sign of understanding the image rotation change in the 
LO6 update (which, I admit, I only learned about today) and he shows no 
understanding of the plugin. Here, how it was before LO6.

<https://youtu.be/i7Ad_9hzc7s>

Is there EVER a time Peter is right about tech? I make my share of 
absurd errors (PGP quotes coming up from others, no doubt) but I openly 
admit it when they are pointed out (and, if needed, shown). Peter will 
NEVER admit to his errors. He is too insecure.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

Thread

More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-11 16:05 -0400
  More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-11 14:16 -0700
    Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-11 14:44 -0700
    Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-12 10:23 -0400
      Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 07:28 -0700
      Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-12 10:37 -0700
        Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-12 14:17 -0400
          Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-12 15:24 -0700
            Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-15 08:51 -0500
              Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 07:11 -0700
              Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-05-15 20:39 +0200
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 11:42 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 11:53 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-15 14:56 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 12:14 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-05-16 18:08 +0200
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-16 09:30 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-16 09:35 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 10:31 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 10:42 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-16 11:49 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 12:30 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-16 16:19 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-16 16:01 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-15 12:47 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 13:34 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 13:57 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-17 08:00 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 06:59 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-17 13:19 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-18 09:23 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2018-05-18 15:36 +0100
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-18 08:45 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-18 11:27 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-18 09:39 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 09:51 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 09:47 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 09:49 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 03:44 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 09:36 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-17 07:10 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-17 09:09 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-17 08:41 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 07:00 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 06:56 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 02:59 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 20:25 +0000
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 13:38 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-23 17:55 -0400
              Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 20:22 +0000
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 13:37 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-23 18:40 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 06:27 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-24 17:41 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-24 17:43 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 20:18 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 21:01 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 21:32 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 21:52 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 22:06 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 21:08 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-25 08:00 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-25 05:41 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-25 09:14 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) quatloo <quatloo@tribble.net> - 2018-05-25 09:14 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:18 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 10:26 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-25 16:45 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 14:13 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:30 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 10:48 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 10:59 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 11:11 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 11:25 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 11:45 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 13:23 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 14:16 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 07:51 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:14 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 14:34 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-25 12:45 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 14:48 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:14 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 07:01 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-25 06:22 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 08:50 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-25 07:21 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:27 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-25 16:42 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 14:05 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 20:04 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:28 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-25 16:41 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 14:25 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-25 15:42 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 15:46 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-26 11:48 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 09:01 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-26 09:06 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-26 12:11 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 09:17 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-26 19:21 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-27 09:07 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 06:34 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 09:16 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 20:22 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-29 07:03 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-29 08:05 -0400
                Andrzej Matuch averaged 6.8 Posts/Day, 216 last 30 days. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 06:23 -0700
                Re: Andrzej Matuch averaged 6.8 Posts/Day, 216 last 30 days. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 06:25 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-29 07:56 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 08:47 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-29 17:35 -0400
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 05:22 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 13:26 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 11:30 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-25 12:28 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 14:35 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 14:42 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-25 12:48 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-25 14:48 -0500
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-25 12:39 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 14:17 -0700
                Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 14:26 -0700
  Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-11 14:40 -0700
  Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-05-12 13:00 +0000
    Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 06:09 -0700
      Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 08:31 -0700
  More right-wing crybaby illogic (which does exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-14 07:25 -0500
    Re: More right-wing crybaby illogic (which does exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 05:33 -0700
      Re: More right-wing crybaby illogic (which does exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 19:28 -0700
    Re: More right-wing crybaby illogic (which does exist) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-14 08:20 -0500
      Re: More right-wing crybaby illogic (which does exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 08:25 -0700
      Re: More right-wing crybaby illogic (which does exist) RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 20:19 +0000
        Re: More right-wing crybaby illogic (which does exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 13:37 -0700
    Re: More right-wing crybaby illogic (which does exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 08:26 -0700
    Re: More right-wing crybaby illogic (which does exist) RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 20:13 +0000
      Re: More right-wing crybaby illogic (which does exist) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 13:36 -0700
      Re: More right-wing crybaby illogic (which does exist) quatloo <quatloo@tribble.net> - 2018-05-23 17:42 -0500
        Re: More right-wing crybaby illogic (which does exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 19:00 -0700
        Re: More right-wing crybaby illogic (which does exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 02:50 -0700
  Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 23:45 -0700
  Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 01:52 -0700
  Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 08:54 -0700
  Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 22:41 -0700
  Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 03:48 -0700
  Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 14:31 -0700
    Tech question for Carroll Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-29 14:40 -0700
  Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 17:07 -0700
  Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 18:26 -0700
  Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 18:57 -0700
  Re: More white oppression (which doesn't exist) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 21:02 -0700

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