Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic

From	Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Newsgroups	sci.math
Subject	Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic
Date	2018-05-13 01:00 +0000
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David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alan Mackenzie wrote:

>> Set theory is established mathematics, just as a round Earth is
>> established geography, ...

> So now we see your true colors -- you're an
> antidisestablishmentarianist!  You're saying that whatever has been
> "established", cannot possibly in a million years be disestablished!
> I've been waiting so long for a chance to use that word!

Not at all.  Newtonian mechanics, a well established theory, was
displaced by Einstein's relativity.  Einstein understood Newtonian
mechanics very well, and enhanced it to make it fit new observations.  I
am all in favour of the progress and spread of knowledge.  What I'm not
in favour of is the spreading of falsehoods by ignorant cranks.

You are trying to smear set theory largely because you don't understand
it.  Let me repeat, because you ignored it in my last post: there is no
sign in the post with which you opened this thread that you understand
Cantor's proof, in particular, or proof by contradiction in general.
This is so basic to mathematics, that lack of this understanding renders
your opinions about maths inconsequential.

> All kidding aside, I am suggesting that reasoning about the foundations
> of mathematics requires non-monotonic reasoning.  I'm suggesting that
> we start with the idea that mathematics is a framework for reasoning
> about the real world, and then as we gain a better understanding of
> what "real world" even means, and a better understanding of how we
> reason about the real world, we must be willing to clear out the
> "deadwood" from mathematics when it has no relevance for reasoning
> about the real world, even if that deadwood is believed to be
> "established".

I am suggesting you lack the background to make any such pronouncements.
Aside from that, much of maths has little or no connection with the "real
world" and that is just fine - take John Wiles's proof of Fermat's last
theorem as an example - yet it is a triumph of human endeavour, fully
comparable with the creation of great music or visual art.

Anyway, "deadwood" does get cleared from maths, by people moving on from
it to other things.  How many people still study Euclidean geometry or
quaternions, for example?  But the study of modular forms, once old
fashioned, got a kick from the said John Wiles's and colleagues'
investigations into FLT.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 11:20 -0700
  Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2018-05-11 19:33 +0000
    Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 13:16 -0700
      Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 16:48 -0700
      Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-11 18:31 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-11 18:46 -0700
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-11 18:49 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-12 00:59 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 02:20 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 12:43 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 14:09 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 12:40 -0700
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2018-05-12 20:48 +0000
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 14:50 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2018-05-13 01:00 +0000
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 15:10 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2018-05-14 17:33 +0000
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 21:09 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2018-05-15 19:19 +0000
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 13:50 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-15 21:34 -0500
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 09:10 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 09:15 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-15 05:33 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2018-05-12 19:02 -0400
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-13 01:38 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 21:40 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2018-05-15 05:22 -0400
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-13 01:31 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-13 03:51 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-13 05:18 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-13 06:59 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2018-05-13 11:02 +0000
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-13 05:37 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-05-13 21:57 +0100
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-14 04:44 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-05-14 13:29 +0100
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-14 07:42 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 09:36 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 09:42 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-05-14 18:29 +0100
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 12:03 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 12:06 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 12:10 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 13:44 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-05-14 18:16 +0100
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-15 05:44 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 06:38 -0700
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 17:58 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 18:04 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 18:19 -0700
      Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 09:14 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 10:07 -0700
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 09:26 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 11:18 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 12:26 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-16 14:06 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-16 15:53 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2018-05-16 19:07 -0400
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 01:17 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2018-05-17 09:42 -0400
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 17:40 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-15 11:06 -0700
    Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-12 01:05 -0700
    Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 12:57 -0700
      Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2018-05-13 00:20 +0000
  Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-11 20:03 -0500
    Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-12 00:59 -0700
    Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-05-12 01:59 -0700
      Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 02:55 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 03:04 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-05-12 03:06 -0700
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 03:09 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 03:13 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-05-12 03:20 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 03:28 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 03:24 -0700
  Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-12 01:14 -0700
    Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-13 09:07 -0700
      Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-13 11:08 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-13 12:05 -0700
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-13 12:53 -0700
      Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-15 11:02 -0700
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          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-16 11:30 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zeit Geist <Tucsondrew@me.com> - 2018-05-16 12:23 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-16 14:00 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zeit Geist <Tucsondrew@me.com> - 2018-05-16 16:18 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-16 16:27 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-17 05:01 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 08:34 -0700
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                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 13:38 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-18 08:12 -0700
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                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-21 11:48 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-22 05:45 -0700
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                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 06:31 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-22 13:26 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 14:22 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-23 06:06 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-23 07:19 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-23 11:56 -0700
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                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-23 13:22 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-23 18:11 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-24 02:47 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-24 06:00 -0700
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                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-24 08:10 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-24 09:37 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-24 09:45 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-25 09:05 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-25 11:09 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-25 15:26 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 23:14 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-26 03:23 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-26 06:37 -0700
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                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-26 07:30 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-26 08:39 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-26 09:15 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-27 05:37 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-27 08:58 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-28 03:53 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 05:04 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-28 05:10 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 05:19 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-29 04:53 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 06:22 -0700
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                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 07:12 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-29 08:35 -0700
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                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-30 04:25 -0700
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                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-01 03:58 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-01 05:07 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-01 05:24 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-01 06:27 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 10:21 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 14:04 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 16:27 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-02 07:23 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 00:11 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 23:12 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-23 12:49 -0700
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                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-23 13:24 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-24 02:09 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-05-22 19:09 +0100
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-22 13:29 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 22:32 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-24 03:57 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 04:48 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-24 07:29 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-24 16:39 +0200
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-18 01:19 +0200
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-18 08:14 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-18 17:31 +0200
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-18 10:09 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 10:53 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-18 13:54 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-18 13:55 -0700
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                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zeit Geist <Tucsondrew@me.com> - 2018-05-18 14:33 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-19 04:58 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-19 05:28 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-19 05:34 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-19 05:36 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-19 05:46 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zeit Geist <Tucsondrew@me.com> - 2018-05-19 09:00 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-20 03:21 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-19 02:01 +0200
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-05-21 16:40 +0100
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-21 09:06 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-21 13:52 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-22 05:45 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 08:27 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-22 13:29 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 13:43 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 13:52 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-23 06:06 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zeit Geist <Tucsondrew@me.com> - 2018-05-22 17:30 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-23 06:06 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-15 17:14 -0700
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-16 11:26 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-16 16:35 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-17 05:03 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 05:33 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-17 09:31 -0700
  Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 12:40 -0500
  Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 22:36 -0700
    Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-14 04:49 -0700
      Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 01:34 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-17 05:08 -0700
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 10:03 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 10:06 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 10:19 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 10:26 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 10:30 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 12:29 -0700

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