Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic

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Date	2018-05-13 01:38 -0700
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Subject	Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic
From	WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de>

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Am Sonntag, 13. Mai 2018 01:02:47 UTC+2 schrieb Jim Burns:
> On 5/12/2018 4:48 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >> If we start teaching set theory to the very young, it will only
> >> make the problems that Thurston delineates much worse.
> > 
> > I agree, but not for the reasons you would put forward.  Set theory
> > as taught to the very young consists of putting intersecting circles
> > on a blackboard with small numbers of objects in each, and
> > announcing the definitions of union and intersection.  This is
> > pointless to the children, and is dull, dull, dull.
> > 
> > Set theory only becomes interesting with infinite sets.  Young
> > children lack the intellectual development to cope with the infinite.
> > Set theory should only be taught to older age groups, when they are
> > ready for it.
> 
> I am completely inexperienced in this area. But I would like to
> see first order predicate logic taught at as young an age as
> could be managed, for the sake of its beauty, though it will also
> have many important applications to some of the students at some
> eventual later point.

For instance this one: What means "all natural numbers"? Does it mean only those natural numbers which have the characteristic property of every natural number, i.e., to be followed by infinitely many natural numbers? Then you don't have all of them because always infinitely many are remaining. Or does it mean all natural numbers with no exception? Then you include some which are not followed by infinitely many and hence are not natural numbers because they are lacking the characteristic property of every natural number. That means you get more than all natural numbers. 

Logic?

Regards, WM

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The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 11:20 -0700
  Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2018-05-11 19:33 +0000
    Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 13:16 -0700
      Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 16:48 -0700
      Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-11 18:31 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-11 18:46 -0700
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-11 18:49 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-12 00:59 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 02:20 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 12:43 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 14:09 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 12:40 -0700
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2018-05-12 20:48 +0000
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 14:50 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2018-05-13 01:00 +0000
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 15:10 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2018-05-14 17:33 +0000
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 21:09 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2018-05-15 19:19 +0000
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 13:50 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-15 21:34 -0500
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 09:10 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 09:15 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-15 05:33 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2018-05-12 19:02 -0400
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-13 01:38 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 21:40 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2018-05-15 05:22 -0400
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-13 01:31 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-13 03:51 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-13 05:18 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-13 06:59 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2018-05-13 11:02 +0000
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-13 05:37 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-05-13 21:57 +0100
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-14 04:44 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-05-14 13:29 +0100
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-14 07:42 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 09:36 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 09:42 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-05-14 18:29 +0100
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 12:03 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 12:06 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 12:10 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 13:44 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-05-14 18:16 +0100
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-15 05:44 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-14 06:38 -0700
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 17:58 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 18:04 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 18:19 -0700
      Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 09:14 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 10:07 -0700
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 09:26 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 11:18 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 12:26 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-16 14:06 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-16 15:53 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2018-05-16 19:07 -0400
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 01:17 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2018-05-17 09:42 -0400
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 17:40 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-15 11:06 -0700
    Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-12 01:05 -0700
    Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 12:57 -0700
      Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2018-05-13 00:20 +0000
  Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-11 20:03 -0500
    Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-12 00:59 -0700
    Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-05-12 01:59 -0700
      Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 02:55 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 03:04 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-05-12 03:06 -0700
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 03:09 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 03:13 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-05-12 03:20 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 03:28 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-12 03:24 -0700
  Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-12 01:14 -0700
    Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-13 09:07 -0700
      Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-13 11:08 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-13 12:05 -0700
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-13 12:53 -0700
      Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-15 11:02 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2018-05-15 21:13 +0200
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-16 11:30 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zeit Geist <Tucsondrew@me.com> - 2018-05-16 12:23 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-16 14:00 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zeit Geist <Tucsondrew@me.com> - 2018-05-16 16:18 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-16 16:27 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-17 05:01 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 08:34 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-17 09:34 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 10:12 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-17 10:57 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 11:56 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 12:00 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-17 12:29 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 13:38 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-18 08:12 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-18 12:23 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-19 04:53 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-19 07:21 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-19 09:11 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-20 03:20 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-20 04:48 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-20 05:19 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-20 10:09 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-20 13:26 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-20 18:10 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-21 06:05 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-21 07:24 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-21 08:59 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-21 11:48 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-22 05:45 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-22 14:51 +0200
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 06:31 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-22 13:26 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 14:22 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-23 06:06 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-23 07:19 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-23 11:56 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-23 12:08 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-23 13:22 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-23 18:11 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-24 02:47 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-24 06:00 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-24 07:43 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-24 08:10 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-24 09:37 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-24 09:45 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-25 09:05 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-25 11:09 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-25 15:26 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 23:14 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-26 03:23 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-26 06:37 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-26 06:50 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-26 07:30 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-26 08:39 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-26 09:15 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-27 05:37 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-27 08:58 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-28 03:53 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 05:04 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-28 05:10 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-28 05:19 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-29 04:53 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 06:22 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-29 06:36 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 07:12 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-29 08:35 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-29 08:52 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-30 04:25 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-30 04:50 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-31 06:17 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 07:05 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-31 09:53 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 11:47 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-01 03:58 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-01 05:07 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-01 05:24 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-01 06:27 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 10:21 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 14:04 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 16:27 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-02 07:23 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 00:11 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 23:12 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-23 12:49 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-23 12:51 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-23 13:24 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-24 02:09 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-05-22 19:09 +0100
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-22 13:29 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 22:32 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-24 03:57 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 04:48 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-24 07:29 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-24 16:39 +0200
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-18 01:19 +0200
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-18 08:14 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-18 17:31 +0200
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-18 10:09 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 10:53 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-18 13:54 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-18 13:55 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-18 14:09 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-18 14:19 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-18 14:23 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-18 14:37 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zeit Geist <Tucsondrew@me.com> - 2018-05-18 14:33 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-19 04:58 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-19 05:28 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-19 05:34 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-19 05:36 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-19 05:46 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zeit Geist <Tucsondrew@me.com> - 2018-05-19 09:00 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-20 03:21 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-05-19 02:01 +0200
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-05-21 16:40 +0100
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-21 09:06 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-21 13:52 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-22 05:45 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 08:27 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-22 13:29 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 13:43 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 13:52 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-23 06:06 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zeit Geist <Tucsondrew@me.com> - 2018-05-22 17:30 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-23 06:06 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-15 17:14 -0700
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-16 11:26 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-05-16 16:35 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-17 05:03 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 05:33 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-17 09:31 -0700
  Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 12:40 -0500
  Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 22:36 -0700
    Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-14 04:49 -0700
      Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 01:34 -0700
        Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-05-17 05:08 -0700
          Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 10:03 -0700
            Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 10:06 -0700
              Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 10:19 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 10:26 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 10:30 -0700
                Re: The fundamental theorem of set theory is problematic FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 12:29 -0700

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