Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.

From	Sergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.
Date	2018-05-02 15:47 -0500
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On 4/27/2018 4:36 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>> There is nothing (no thing) into which space is expanding. This is an
>>> expansion of the entire universe, so there can be nothing outside of it.
>>
>> I can't believe what I'm reading here, on this platform, in this forum.
>> It has to be another paradox.  Your "nothing" stands for 
>> the ABSENCE of time and space.  You can't expand anything along that.
> 
> 13.8 billion years ago, everything in the (subjectively) Known Universe
> was in the same location; i.e. zero entropy and infinite density/exergy.
> [ eXergy is a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ]
> 
> Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
> leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
> but none of the eXergy.
> 
> Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.

so, where there is no gravity,
there is no memory where stuff is,
it is Lost in Space.

> 
> All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us:
>   Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.

randomness is a human concept, only humans decide what is random.

> 
> General Relativity's four dimensional TimeScape is static, eternal, 
> perfectly causal... it is, at once, everything _and_ nothing.
>

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The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-17 23:36 -0700
  Re: The Shape of the Universe. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-18 00:12 -0700
    Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-18 00:42 -0700
      Re: The Shape of the Universe. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-04-18 22:26 +1000
        Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-18 17:02 -0700
  Re: The Shape of the Universe. SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-04-18 17:33 +1000
    Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-18 10:27 -0700
      Re: The Shape of the Universe. SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-04-19 12:19 +1000
        Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-19 23:51 -0700
          Re: The Shape of the Universe. SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-04-21 22:02 +1000
            Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-21 09:25 -0700
              Re: The Shape of the Universe. SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-04-22 16:23 +1000
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-22 13:48 -0700
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. SolomonW <SoloomonW@citi.com.au> - 2018-04-23 10:35 +1000
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 17:55 -0700
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-22 18:29 -0700
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-22 21:13 -0700
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-22 23:23 -0700
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-22 23:31 -0700
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-04-23 20:04 +1000
  Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-18 10:18 -0700
  Re: The Shape of the Universe. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-18 13:33 -0400
    Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-19 23:53 -0700
  Re: The Shape of the Universe. casagiannoni@optonline.net - 2018-04-20 07:38 -0400
    Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-20 10:07 -0700
  Re: The Shape of the Universe. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 19:33 -0700
    Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-21 20:40 -0700
  Re: The Shape of the Universe. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-04-22 20:21 -0700
  Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-23 10:31 -0500
    Re: The Shape of the Universe. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-04-23 14:16 -0700
    Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-23 22:50 -0700
    Re: The Shape of the Universe. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-04-24 20:48 +1000
      Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-24 08:49 -0700
      Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-24 08:50 -0700
      Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-24 23:21 -0500
        Re: The Shape of the Universe. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-04-25 20:25 +1000
      Re: The Shape of the Universe. Klaus Meinhard <k_meinhard@gmx.de> - 2018-04-25 08:53 +0200
        Re: The Shape of the Universe. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-04-25 20:28 +1000
        Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-25 10:42 -0500
          Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-25 13:33 -0700
            Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-25 22:53 -0500
              Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-26 00:00 -0700
              Re: The Shape of the Universe. Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-27 21:18 +0000
                Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-27 14:36 -0700
                Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-27 21:44 +0000
                You're a consumer. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-27 14:52 -0700
                Re: You're a consumer. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-27 19:07 -0400
                Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-04-27 15:54 -0700
                Toss a rock up, and it "remembers" to come down. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-27 16:23 -0700
                Re: Toss a rock up, and it "remembers" to come down. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-04-28 15:09 -0700
                Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-27 19:05 -0400
                Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-02 15:47 -0500
                Gravity is SpaceTime, the 4D TimeScape; it's everywhere, always. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-02 14:30 -0700
                Re: Gravity is SpaceTime, the 4D TimeScape; it's everywhere, always. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-03 06:53 +0000
                Where/When is there no Energy/Matter ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-03 01:11 -0700
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-27 16:38 -0500
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-27 21:53 +0000
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-29 03:27 +0200
              Re: The Shape of the Universe. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-29 03:06 +0200
            Re: The Shape of the Universe. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-04-26 19:44 +1000
              Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-26 08:18 -0700
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-04-28 00:16 +1000
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-27 07:46 -0700
              Re: The Shape of the Universe. Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-28 11:52 +0000
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-28 14:23 -0400
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-05-01 11:07 +0000
            Re: The Shape of the Universe. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 12:33 -0500
              Re: The Shape of the Universe. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-28 14:34 -0400
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-28 22:33 -0500
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-29 03:17 -0400
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-04-29 09:21 -0400
                Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-29 07:26 -0700
              Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-28 11:44 -0700
          Re: The Shape of the Universe. Klaus Meinhard <k_meinhard@gmx.de> - 2018-04-27 09:47 +0200
            Re: The Shape of the Universe. Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2018-04-27 21:39 +0200
        Re: The Shape of the Universe. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-25 15:33 -0700
  Re: The Shape of the Universe. jasinski.ryszard.21@gmail.com - 2018-04-26 01:24 -0700
  The Shape of the Universe. swormley1@gmail.com - 2018-04-27 16:39 -0700
    Re: The Shape of the Universe. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-27 20:46 -0400

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