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Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh!

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On 5/1/2018 12:23 PM, Keith Stein wrote:
> 
> On 30/04/2018 21:57, Volney wrote:
>> On 4/30/2018 3:23 PM, Keith Stein wrote:
>>> On 30/04/2018 19:40, Volney wrote:
>>>> On 4/30/2018 2:14 PM, Keith Stein wrote:
> 
>>>>> But think about it Ken, how is a clock in free fall going to know
> what orbit it's in, in order to know whether to go fast or slow. It
> ain't eh!
> 
>>>> It doesn't know. The clock will always run at the normal rate as far
> as a local comoving observer is concerned. The clock will see itself run
> at its normal rate.
> 
>>> And if it really does run at its normal rate then clearly the two
> clocks will agree when reunited, on the ISS, or indeed anywhere eh!
> 
>>>> Seeing a clock run slow or fast ONLY happens when there are two
> observers/clocks in different states. Such as a stationary clock on the
> ground and a clock in orbit on the ISS.
> 
>>> Of course clocks which are moving relative to each other appear to
> run at different rates, but, unless one of the clocks has REALLY changed
> rate, the clocks must agree when reunited.
> 
>> Why would they? SR doesn't state that. It's like saying that if two
> cars drive from New York to Chicago and their odometers are identical at
> the start of the trip, they must be identical at the end of the trip as
> well, no matter which route they took.
> 
> No Mr. Volney, but it is exactly like saying that if two cars drive from
> New York to Chicago and their CLOCKS are identical at the start of the
> trip, they must be identical at the end as well, no matter which route
> they took eh!
> 
>> If the two twins take different routes through spacetime, their clocks
> won't agree.
> 
> There is space, measured by odometers,
>  and there is time, measured by clocks,
>  and there is spacetime, measured by idiots eh!
> 
>>>>> Also if you look at how Einstein derived the SR time dilation it's
> obvious that it's bull shit. He assumed the velocity of light, unlike
> any other velocity, is independent of the velocity of the observer.
> 
>>>> And all measurements confirm that Einstein was correct in doing this.
> 
> no measurement ever confirmed that the velocity of light relative to the
> observer is independent  of the velocity of the observer, and none ever
> will, because actually it's an impossibility.
> 
>>> No one has ever successfully demonstrated the SR twin effect, ever eh!
> 
>> Demonstrated daily with particle accelerators.
> 
> Another impossibility eh!
> 
>>>>> Me i think clocks would just go on ticking at the same old rate
> whatever
> 
>>>> Finally you said something correct.
> 
> Thank you Mr.Voley, and what i actually said was:
> 
> "Me i think clocks would just go on ticking at the same old rate
> whatever bull shit Einstein comes out with eh!"
> 
>>>> You need to learn SR and GR.
> 
>>> And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law:
>>>
>>>      "ANY DISCREPANCY BETWEEN PREVIOUSLY SYNCRONISED CLOCKS,
>>>       WHICH CAN BE FULLY ACCOUNTED FOR BY THE FINITE SPEED OF THE
>>>       SIGNAL CONNECTING THE CLOCKS, MUST DISAPPEAR WHENEVER THOSE
>>>      CLOCKS ARE REUNITED."
> 
>> Nobody cares about your self-proclaimed "law".
> 
> Someday someone will take a couple of clocks to the ISS, or its
> successor, and prove that indeed Stein's Law is correct, and one week
> later everyone will wonder how anyone could ever of doubted it eh!
> 
> keith stein


Hafele–Keating experiment 1971,

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And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 18:23 +0100
  Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-01 13:38 -0400
  Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-02 15:44 -0500
    Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 19:06 +0100
      Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 14:27 -0500
        Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-03 21:29 -0400
          Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 23:52 -0500
            Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 03:41 -0400
  Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 11:05 +0100

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