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Re: Binary Black Holes

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Binary Black Holes
Date 2018-04-19 12:17 -0500
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On 4/18/18 7:37 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> “Which is how you know they can’t be emitted by electrons, which are also
> fermions. Violates conservation of angular momentum. Idea is dead before
> gate opens. “
> Can they be emitted by stars?
> Do you not understand the Fractal idea where electrons are composed of next level down stars?
> Nothing goes in when someone talks to you, does it?
> After years and years, you still can’t grasp the idea.
> BUS!!!
> Just kidding, Odd.
> Really- you are SO dense!
> 

Stars are not fermions. Electrons are fermions.
They are called fermions because they are observed to behave like 
fermions. Fermions are also observed to not radiate other fermions. You 
can't just decide that electrons should be able to radiate fermions 
because your idea is that they are stars and not fermions.

Known laws of physics are based on observations, John.

Your approach to dealing with laws of physics is to try to bypass them 
by dismissing the observations that led to them. This is not a smart 
thing to do.

What you are saying is, "I want electrons to radiate neutrinos, so to 
make them able to do that, then I will declare that they are not in fact 
fermions but are in fact stars, which can radiate neutrinos." The 
problem with this is obvious.

You did the same thing with electrons in atoms, "I want electrons to 
have firm trajectories in atoms, and to avoid the problem of electrons 
radiating energy away in any curved trajectory, I will declare that 
electrons suddenly decide to stop obeying the laws of physics that 
require them to radiate detectable EM radiation and they start radiating 
'smaller-scale' EM radiation that is not detectable instead. This way 
they can do what I want and don't conflict with observations." The 
problem again is that the laws that require them to radiate detectable 
radiation come from observations, so your hypothesis is in conflict with 
observations.

You are FABRICATING an imaginary world that behaves the way you want it 
to imagine, rejecting all the known observations and laws of physics 
that come from those observations. It is a flight of fantasy that has 
nothing to do with science -- the latter being firmly rooted in 
observations.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Binary Black Holes john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 06:22 -0700
  Re: Binary Black Holes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 15:07 +0000
  Re: Binary Black Holes moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-15 17:31 +0000
    Re: Binary Black Holes john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 04:34 -0700
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        Re: Binary Black Holes john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 13:20 -0700
          Re: Binary Black Holes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 22:37 +0000
          Re: Binary Black Holes moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-17 05:16 +0000
      Re: Binary Black Holes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 12:47 +0000
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    Re: Binary Black Holes john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 21:50 -0700
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        Re: Binary Black Holes john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 06:16 -0700
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            Re: Binary Black Holes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 14:54 +0000
              Re: Binary Black Holes john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 10:18 -0700
                Re: Binary Black Holes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 17:52 +0000
                Re: Binary Black Holes john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 11:36 -0700
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                Re: Binary Black Holes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 20:55 +0000
                Re: Binary Black Holes john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 14:18 -0700
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                Re: Binary Black Holes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 00:21 +0000
                Re: Binary Black Holes john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 17:37 -0700
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                Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-17 15:20 -0700
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                No "Bible" is the final word. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-17 17:31 -0700
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