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Re: Binary Black Holes

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Binary Black Holes
Date 2018-04-18 17:23 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"

>>No, dum dum. 
>>I said neutrinos push GALAXIES apart by being absorbed by the central BLACK HOLE. 

>Oh good grief. 

>A black hole is a very small target, relatively speaking.  While 
>a black hole will absorb all neutrinos that cross its event horizon, 
>just about all the others will whiz by unaffected, even if deflected 
>by its gravity. 

>And how many neutrinos are you going to need to push on a 1 billion 
>solar mass BH and have *any* noticeable effect? Or even a 1 million 
>solar mass BH? How about a 1 solar mass BH?"

>Perhaps you should read up on LeSage (Fatio) gravity, Michael.

We've already ruled out LeSage Gravity as unworkable. Too many problems
with it.

>This is PRECISELY what is REQUIRED!!!!!!!

Neutrinos (or something) from stars? That isn't what LeSage gravity is
all about. For LeSage gravity to work, the "ultramundane particles" must
arrive isotropically from outside the universe, from every direction.
Coming from only other objects would cause those objects to REPEL each
other, not attract.

>MOST of the Matter must be transparent for it to work, you foolish boy.

Yes, and that which is absorbed would supply massive energy to the mass,
plus there is drag for matter moving relative to the reference frame of
the "ultramundane particles", plus gravitational shielding, etc. etc.
That's why they gave up on LeSage Gravity centuries ago!

>PLUS, as you know, in my model

You still haven't come up with a proper model.

> the Black Holes are DISCS

Nonrotating black holes would have perfect spheres as event horizons.
Rotating BHs would have oblate spheroids.

> and when they are EDGE-ON, they are virtually IMPOSSIBLE to hit!!!!!

And what would define that? Oh yeah, you have no model so no answer
to that.

>Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha!!!!!

Sounds like the maniacal laughter of the insane to me.

>Thanks, Michael, for illuminating how exactly perfect my model is for LeSage/Fatio. You're a GEM!!!!

Huh? You still have to deal with the failure of the LeSage model.

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Binary Black Holes john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 06:22 -0700
  Re: Binary Black Holes Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 15:07 +0000
  Re: Binary Black Holes moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-15 17:31 +0000
    Re: Binary Black Holes john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-16 04:34 -0700
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