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Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

From Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org>
Subject Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Newsgroups alt.os.linux.ubuntu
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 07:14:59 -0500, Bud Frede wrote:

> My impression is that someone who was anointed was simply a priest who
> had been rubbed with oil and consecrated. There wasn't any connotation
> of being a messiah, nor was it anything really special. I think I
> remember reading that all priests were anointed at that time.
> 
> Perhaps he was different because he wasn't a member of the priest class?
> Was he anointed by his followers?

hi. I'm not sure of the symbolic meaning of anointing but it seems kings were
anointed also. it was of course done by priests. so part of the ceremony of
coronation or king-making.

in Greek the word for 'anointed' is 'christos'. my point here was simply that 
'christos' is the Greek translation of the Hebrew word 'messiah', an anointed 
person, specifically it came to denote the king who will reign in the 'final days'. 

"christians" were jews such as Peter, James (Jesus's brother), Paul, etc. who 
applied this to Jesus of Nazareth, Paul doing so after his famous experience 
on the road to Damascus.

interesting book is Geza Vermes's _Jesus, the Jew_ though it's somewhat old 
so I am not sure what newer research has brought.

heh, I remember talking to someone who though 'Christ' was Jesus's family 
name! Joseph and Mary Christ!  

f.

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Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 04:43 -0500
  Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-13 13:14 +0100
    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 07:31 -0500
      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-13 14:48 +0100
        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 09:38 -0500
          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-14 02:31 +0100
            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 21:24 -0500
            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 21:28 -0500
          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-17 03:23 +0000
            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-17 06:42 +0000
        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2016-01-14 17:58 -0800
          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-15 09:01 -0500
    Re: Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 07:39 -0500
      Re: Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-13 14:50 +0100
    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 07:39 -0500
      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-13 14:52 +0100
    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-13 18:50 +0100
      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 15:47 -0500
    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-13 14:53 -0600
      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-15 07:14 -0500
        Re: [OT entirely] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> - 2016-01-15 16:23 +0200
          Re: [OT entirely] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-15 14:42 -0500
        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-15 11:36 -0500
          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-15 14:29 -0600
            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-15 16:27 -0500
              Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-16 00:45 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-16 10:33 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-16 11:07 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-17 03:59 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-17 10:36 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-17 10:40 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:04 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-17 16:15 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-01-17 16:45 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-17 13:15 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-01-17 18:32 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-17 19:46 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-17 21:00 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-21 03:47 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-21 05:56 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-23 03:23 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-23 03:03 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-23 08:54 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-24 04:31 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-24 09:50 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-01-24 02:46 -0800
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. mike antipasto <pizzadude@mycomputerrox.org> - 2016-01-24 10:05 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-24 10:41 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-25 04:10 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-25 10:47 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-27 03:09 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-27 01:05 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-30 02:49 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mr.E <Mr.E@totally.invalid> - 2016-01-24 07:16 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-24 15:51 +0100
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 11:13 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-24 19:20 +0100
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 13:29 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-24 21:49 +0100
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-24 18:12 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mr.E <Mr.E@totally.invalid> - 2016-01-24 13:50 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-01-24 11:41 -0800
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-01-24 08:38 -0800
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-24 09:42 -0800
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-25 04:01 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-25 10:44 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-27 03:06 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-27 01:03 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C can suck my balls <Imustbejackingoff@the.moment> - 2016-01-25 16:06 -0800
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-26 09:22 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-18 08:11 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 10:08 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-01-18 15:19 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 11:49 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2016-01-18 17:59 +0100
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Jonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:07 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2016-01-18 19:37 +0100
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 14:02 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 11:06 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Jonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:16 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 13:53 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 16:20 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-18 21:49 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 16:41 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Jonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:04 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Jonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:09 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 13:56 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-18 21:44 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-18 21:43 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 16:42 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2016-01-19 00:01 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-19 03:08 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 11:12 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mike Yetto <unet.lighthouse@xoxy.net> - 2016-01-17 14:33 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-18 14:30 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-18 15:37 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-20 06:45 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-20 07:30 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-22 13:44 -0600
          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-20 06:40 -0500
            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-20 07:29 -0500
        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-15 14:29 -0600
  Re: Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-14 00:51 +0000

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