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| From | Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.os.linux.ubuntu |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. |
| Followup-To | alt.os.linux.ubuntu |
| Date | 2016-01-13 13:14 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Strider |
| Message-ID | <n75etj$8ti$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <bv6c9blqrp0s9bvbf8follbgib6qmghli3@4ax.com> |
Followups directed to: alt.os.linux.ubuntu
On Wednesday 13 Jan 2016 10:43, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno conveyed the
following to alt.os.linux.ubuntu...
> Remember, this is straight from the imam of the biggest mosque in
> the world.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej0-Pze2KSA
So Jerusalem belongs to the Jews because... "God" gave it to them? ;)
Oh boy... :p
Look, I am a spiritual person. I believe in ─ and have had sufficient
experiences which confirm the existence of ─ a grander reality than what
the belief system which calls itself "science" claims our "reality" to
be. (No, I do not wish to expound here what those experiences
were/are.)
Conventional science as it is taught in schools is wrong (on so many
accounts) ─ and so is the conventional recount of history, by the way ─
but then again, so is religion. Yet, they both hold valuable pieces of
the grander jigsaw puzzle. Sadly enough, those valuable pieces are all
buried under a thick layer of goo on both ends.
Some of that obfuscation was deliberate, so as to serve existing power
structures. Do not forget that ─ to name but one religion ─
Christianity has, by way of the Roman Catholic Church, been the
dominating and legally ruling power in the western world for over 800
years, stifling and prosecuting any truly scientific research, and
gruesomely (and cavalierly) deciding over life and death. Torture and
execution were at the order of the day during what we here in the West
call the Dark Ages.
From Ambrose Bierce's "The Devil's Dictionary":
CHRISTIAN (n.):
1. Someone particularly occupied with the spiritual needs of his
neighbor.
2. Someone who faithfully adheres to the teachings of Jesus Christ
insofar as they are not in conflict with a life of sin.
You can substitute the words "CHRISTIAN" and the name "Jesus Christ" by
the appropriate words and names for any other religion.
For that matter, it is not even certain yet that the person "Jesus
Christ" really did exist. If he did, then "Jesus" would not have been
his name. "Yeshua" would have been more likely, and the word "Christ"
comes from the Greek word Kristos ─ meaning "the anointed one" ─ and may
have been derived from the name Krishna.
Some data even suggests that there may have been TWO individuals in
those days upon whom the character of Jesus was based and whose lives
have been conflated into a single identity by the Roman Catholic Church,
and that one of them died on the cross while the other one later on
moved to what is now called India.
(For that matter, I believe that the Arab world, under the influence of
Islam, is currently going through a similarly dark age, because Arab
culture was already long significantly more advanced on account of
medical science, astronomy and even architecture than our western
culture in the centuries before Islam came along.)
It is also my opinion ─ and one that I firmly hold ─ that anything
claiming to be a god/deity and anything claiming to require worship,
would by definition not be what it claims to be (and not deserve the
worship it demands). I abhor the concept of dogmatic religion as a
whole. The non-material realms do not dictate to the material world how
anyone should live here, or what would be allowed and what not.
If anyone truly came to the Jewish people and offered them the city of
Jerusalem, or the land currently called Israel, then they could just as
well have been visitors from another world, for all I know, because
sufficient evidence exists ─ all neatly debunked, dismissed and
professionally ridiculed by conventional materialism, mainstream science
and financially and/or politically engaged "journalism" ─ that Earth has
indeed already been visited by more advanced cultures from elsewhere on
numerous occasions throughout human history. And as the late Arthur C.
Clarke once said (or wrote): "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
indistinguishable from magic."
By consequence, whoever "donated" Jerusalem to the Jewish people ─ or to
Muslims, or to Christians, or to Buddhists, or to {R,P}astafari for that
matter ─ had no authority to give away anything at all to anyone, and
especially not considering that the particular "something" they were
giving away was already part of this world, and as such, already
belonged to all of humanity.
As I wrote higher up, part of the obfuscation was (and still is)
deliberate, as a strategy of the existing power structures. However, a
great deal of the obfuscation regarding the truth behind what "reality"
is also came from human stupidity ─ and this is still true on account of
what's going on in the world today, whether it is related to GNU/Linux,
to politics, to religions, to scientific facts or whatever. I even see
the average IQ levels dropping every year ─ to my dismay and great
frustration, I should add.
Also from Ambrose Bierce's "The Devil's Dictionary":
IDIOT (n.):
A member of a large tribe whose influence in the affairs of
mankind has always been dominant.
That said, and given that I have been addressed personally in the
subject line of this thread, the only thing I have ever espoused here in
this newsgroup with regard to the state of Israel ─ and keep in mind
that this is a nation founded upon a religion and the belief that said
religion's deity has donated that land to only those particular people
[*] ─ is that the state of Israel is slowly but methodically doing the
same thing to the Palestinians as what Adolf Hitler did to the Jews in
Nazi Germany, _and_ that the state of Israel can only get away with that
because it has the _unconditional_ support from the United States of
Acronyms and the British Empire.
[*] Which is no different from what gives kings and queens the right
to rule over their fellow human beings. They rule "by Divine
Right", as the chosen Earthly representatives of some godhead.
I have many friends who are Muslims. They know I care not about their
religion, any more than that I would care about any other religion. And
they are certainly not giving me any flack over that, because on the one
hand, they believe in the freedom of thought, and on the other hand, I
treat them with respect ─ both on account of my own convictions and on
account of what they hold for true in their own religion and culture.
I do not actually have any Jewish friends, although I have known a few
Jewish people, and I got along well with them. The city of Antwerp here
in the Flanders does have quite a large Jewish community, but I don't
live in Antwerp and Judaism is very rare elsewhere in the country. I do
on the other hand have Christian friends and family members ─ my brother
is a devout Christian, for that matter. I pray for his awakening every
day. (That's a joke, people. <rolls eyes>)
I have nothing against Jews or the Israeli people in general ─ who, for
that matter, are not all really happy about what their government does.
It is my opinion that prejudices and discrimination are abject. And I
feel the same way about governments. :p
We are all human beings, living a relatively short life here on this
planet ─ you only realize how short it really is when you have to start
attending the funerals of the people around you ─ and we're all here on
this rock in space together, so I believe that the best solution is for
all of us to try and get along with one another, as opposed to competing
with one another, whether socially, politically, militarily, religiously
or economically. (Economics is only a pseudoscience anyway, and the
whole financial-economic system is nothing other than legalized
organized crime.)
I do, however, hold judgment ─ not a prejudice, but a judgment ─ over
those bent on fear- and warmongering, and the psychopaths who are
feeding off of the misery of others, or who are shamelessly exploiting
their fellow human beings in whatever way. I loathe such people. As a
human being, I am not perfect. I too have flaws. But at least I am
aware of those flaws, and I actively try keeping them in check. I
assume full responsibility over my own actions. And that is what, in my
humble opinion, allows me to indulge in the judgment of those particular
people ─ "predators" would actually be a more apt description.
I hope I have made my position clear enough now. A discussion such as
this one is off-topic for this newsgroup, and I have no desire of
bringing the wrath upon me from those who are pedantic about this
newsgroup's purpose. (As you will notice, I have added "[OT]" to the
topic of this thread.)
I am an active member and administrator of a web-based forum where
discussions regarding subjects such as this one are a little more on-
topic, although I must add ─ and this will probably get me flamed here ─
that the intellectual level of our members generally outrises the silly
back-and-forth political bickering which occasionally still permeates
this newsgroup. Nobody at our forum still thinks in terms of "Jew
versus Muslim", "left wing versus right wing", and certainly not the US-
centric "Democrat versus Republican", or "Hillary the Machiavellian
psycho versus Donald the greedy bigot". (They should bring Sarah Palin
back into the game. Then it would REALLY be amusing.)
What you should always ask yourself/yourselves, in any conflict, is
first and foremost, "Cui bono?" Who benefits from all this bickering,
from all these conflicts, from all these wars?
"Divide et conquere."
-- Julius Caesar
I know the answer to the above question. But do you? (The word "you"
in this sentence is not necessarily referring to DLUNU or any other
particular individual in this newsgroup.)
--
= Aragorn =
http://www.linuxcounter.net - registrant #223157
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Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 04:43 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-13 13:14 +0100
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 07:31 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-13 14:48 +0100
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 09:38 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-14 02:31 +0100
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 21:24 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 21:28 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-17 03:23 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-17 06:42 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2016-01-14 17:58 -0800
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-15 09:01 -0500
Re: Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 07:39 -0500
Re: Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-13 14:50 +0100
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 07:39 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-13 14:52 +0100
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-13 18:50 +0100
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 15:47 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-13 14:53 -0600
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-15 07:14 -0500
Re: [OT entirely] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> - 2016-01-15 16:23 +0200
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Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-15 11:36 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-15 14:29 -0600
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-15 16:27 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-16 00:45 -0600
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-16 10:33 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-16 11:07 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-17 03:59 -0600
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-17 10:36 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-17 10:40 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:04 -0600
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-17 16:15 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-01-17 16:45 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-17 13:15 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-01-17 18:32 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-17 19:46 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-17 21:00 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-21 03:47 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-21 05:56 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-23 03:23 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-23 03:03 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-23 08:54 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-24 04:31 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-24 09:50 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-01-24 02:46 -0800
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. mike antipasto <pizzadude@mycomputerrox.org> - 2016-01-24 10:05 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-24 10:41 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-25 04:10 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-25 10:47 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-27 03:09 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-27 01:05 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-30 02:49 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mr.E <Mr.E@totally.invalid> - 2016-01-24 07:16 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-24 15:51 +0100
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 11:13 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-24 19:20 +0100
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 13:29 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-24 21:49 +0100
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-24 18:12 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mr.E <Mr.E@totally.invalid> - 2016-01-24 13:50 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-01-24 11:41 -0800
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-01-24 08:38 -0800
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-24 09:42 -0800
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-25 04:01 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-25 10:44 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-27 03:06 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-27 01:03 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C can suck my balls <Imustbejackingoff@the.moment> - 2016-01-25 16:06 -0800
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-26 09:22 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-18 08:11 -0600
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 10:08 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-01-18 15:19 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 11:49 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2016-01-18 17:59 +0100
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Jonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:07 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2016-01-18 19:37 +0100
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 14:02 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 11:06 -0600
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Jonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:16 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 13:53 -0600
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 16:20 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-18 21:49 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 16:41 -0600
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Jonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:04 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Jonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:09 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 13:56 -0600
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-18 21:44 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-18 21:43 +0000
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 16:42 -0600
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2016-01-19 00:01 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-19 03:08 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 11:12 -0600
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mike Yetto <unet.lighthouse@xoxy.net> - 2016-01-17 14:33 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-18 14:30 -0600
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-18 15:37 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-20 06:45 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-20 07:30 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-22 13:44 -0600
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-20 06:40 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-20 07:29 -0500
Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-15 14:29 -0600
Re: Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-14 00:51 +0000
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