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| From | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: Train Physics Problem |
| Date | 2015-11-03 18:19 +0000 |
| Organization | NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $23.95 |
| Message-ID | <pan.2015.11.03.18.20.46@localhost.localdomain> (permalink) |
| References | <pan.2015.11.03.02.06.31@localhost.localdomain> <n1agtm$abd$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
On Tue, 03 Nov 2015 08:38:49 -0600, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > Not insignificant, but not huge either. > Yes, that is correct. This factor becomes even less significant in the everyday operating conditions of track gradients where the gravitational forces on a heavy train dwarf everything else. A slight 2% grade can bring many trains to a complete halt. Trains also must dissipate all that huge energy as heat whenever they slow to a stop. Most locomotives can use "regenerative" braking where the traction motors are run in reverse, using the magnetic field to produce current. The current is then directed to resistive elements to produce waste heat. Although it could be desirable, I doubt that it would be possible to use batteries to store that energy, much like in some automobiles. AFAIK, no battery could absorb so much power so quickly. I wonder why no one else jumped on this question? It is, after all, pure physics. Most would rather rabidly bark at global warming issues which are not at all appropriate to this group. But trains are the most efficient way to move stuff on land. They can beat trucks on all counts (except for expeditious point-to-point delivery). Any society that does not embrace trains is a losing society, yet currently railroad trackage is being abandoned at a rapid rate. Before too long, the US will possess only a few "backbone" rail corridors with all other transport being inefficient and extravagant trucks and planes.
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Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 02:05 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 02:31 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 02:38 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem gillyshin <spectrum8@sincity.info> - 2015-11-03 04:38 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-02 22:58 -0600
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 05:22 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 08:38 -0600
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 18:19 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 15:00 -0600
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 21:22 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 16:55 -0600
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 23:19 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 21:31 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 17:17 -0600
Re: Train Physics Problem benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 13:41 -0500
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 18:53 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 18:08 -0500
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-04 23:33 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 15:10 -0600
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 21:48 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 02:45 -0500
Re: Train Physics Problem "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 09:19 -0800
Re: Train Physics Problem "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 15:15 -0800
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