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| From | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Train Physics Problem |
| Date | 2015-11-03 02:05 +0000 |
| Organization | NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $23.95 |
| Message-ID | <pan.2015.11.03.02.06.31@localhost.localdomain> (permalink) |
Attention physics enthusiasts: In all of the information that I have encountered about train physics -- and there is not a lot of material available -- the energy required to move a train is calculated by considering factors such a inertia (train mass), mechanical resistance (friction), and air resistance (drag). However, one significant factor is always ignored, and that is the rotational energy of the wheel sets. Why? What is the reason for omitting the rotational energy? In the US, a train wheel is very nearly 1 meter in diameter and has a mass of 1000 kg. The rotational energy for one wheel is then 1/2 * I * w^2. At 60 mph (27 m/s) speed, the energy is 179862 Joules. At 4 wheel sets per car (8 wheels) with an average train containing 100 cars, the total rotational energy of the wheels is a whopping 143889600 Joules = 144 megajoules. Yet this energy is ignored. For a reference, see page 2 of this link: http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=07666111176590991515 This is a Microsoft Word (doc) file. A LibreOffice (odt) version is here: http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=00684379287173743496
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Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 02:05 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 02:31 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 02:38 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem gillyshin <spectrum8@sincity.info> - 2015-11-03 04:38 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-02 22:58 -0600
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 05:22 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 08:38 -0600
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 18:19 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 15:00 -0600
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 21:22 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 16:55 -0600
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 23:19 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 21:31 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 17:17 -0600
Re: Train Physics Problem benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 13:41 -0500
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 18:53 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 18:08 -0500
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-04 23:33 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 15:10 -0600
Re: Train Physics Problem Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-03 21:48 +0000
Re: Train Physics Problem benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 02:45 -0500
Re: Train Physics Problem "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 09:19 -0800
Re: Train Physics Problem "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 15:15 -0800
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