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Re: Black Hole Event Horizon

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Black Hole Event Horizon
Date 2018-03-29 17:21 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> "- show quoted text -
> Because you don’t have to watch an entire circuit to know it! 
> 
> THINK John. The laws of physics that run the orbits of stars in a galaxy 
> are the SAME laws that run satellites around the earth and that run the 
> planets and comets around the sun. So if we discovered a new planet today, 
> we wouldn’t have to watch its orbit for the duration of an entire cycle. We 
> could watch it for a couple of days to measure its position and velocity 
> and we would know already where it would be 55.3 years from now. This is 
> "
> This is known to not be right.
> THINK, Odd!! Why do they need DM?
> Because the same laws obviously DONT APPLY.

No, John, that is not a change in the laws. That is a change in the INPUTS
to the same laws.  
The laws of gravity never changed with the dark matter hypothesis. The law
says, given X amount of matter and energy, then you will see motions Y.  As
we have discussed MANY times, John — many times! — the discrepancy between
predicted and measured GRCs points to two distinct possibilities:
1. The law that relates X and Y is still right, but we have the wrong value
of X.
2. We have the right value of X, but the law relating X and Y is different
than what we thought. 
Dark matter is option 1, not option 2. Get it right. 

> Where were you when they found GRCs?
> The start of FUDGE PHYSICS.
> So, wherever your laws get the wrong answers, there must be DM. You guys are hilarious.
> 
> Plus, all a galaxy's mass is not necessarily at the Center.

Exactly!! And now you have your answer about why speeds at different sides
of the galaxy are different, even at the same radius!! Good for you for
figuring it out!

> 
> But, you're right about the opposite sides of the disc slowing, actually.
> It's because of the double precession that is also happening, and BOTH
> sides slow and speed up equally, the slowest being at the axis of precession. 
> And the slowing runs along as the disc rotates through that axis at both ends.
> However, this slowing doesn't have anything to do with asymmetrical GRCs
> except that it is also because of galactic precession.
> If the Galaxy takes 500 million years to precess, and we've been watching
> closely for, say, 50 years, will the .00000025% change be noticed?
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Black Hole Event Horizon "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 14:41 -0700
  Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 15:07 -0700
    Re: Black Hole Event Horizon "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 15:59 -0700
      Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 16:30 -0700
        Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-25 17:23 +0000
      Re: Black Hole Event Horizon "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-24 18:14 -0700
    Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-25 17:26 +0000
      Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 12:11 -0700
        Re: Black Hole Event Horizon Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 19:32 +0000
        Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-26 00:35 +0000
      Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 12:13 -0700
        Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-26 00:46 +0000
          Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 08:03 -0700
            Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-26 17:21 +0000
              Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 10:51 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-26 18:35 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 13:10 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-26 20:39 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 14:44 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-26 21:58 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 15:12 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-26 22:20 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 16:02 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-27 04:38 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 16:10 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-27 04:48 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 04:26 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-27 12:02 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 05:35 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-27 19:08 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 18:41 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-28 02:56 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 15:16 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 18:04 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-28 03:01 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 05:19 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 12:30 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 07:00 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 07:08 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 16:09 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 09:37 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 09:54 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-28 17:31 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 17:52 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 11:43 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 21:42 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 06:55 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 07:30 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 14:51 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 09:35 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 17:21 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 21:46 -0500
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-29 17:40 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 14:43 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-29 17:34 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 09:58 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-28 17:33 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 17:52 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-28 17:29 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 17:52 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 10:22 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 17:24 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-03-31 19:46 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-28 14:46 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 16:09 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-28 12:33 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 06:24 -0700
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-28 14:41 +0000
                Re: Black Hole Event Horizon Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 16:07 +0000
  Re: Black Hole Event Horizon "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-24 18:25 -0700

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