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Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same?

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same?
Date 2018-03-16 16:36 +0000
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 10:57:04 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 2:01:56 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 5:15:03 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/12/18 9:30 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>> The speed of light within a dense optical medium is found to be slower than
>>>>>>>> in the air. However, upon leaving the medium it (Light) regains its speed and
>>>>>>>> no red or blue shift was found--same wavelength and frequency for before
>>>>>>>> entering the medium. So how does SR explains these observations?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> SR doesn't, because it does not include a theory of electrodynamics.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Both Classical Electrodynamics and QED do explain this, at different levels of 
>>>>>>> sophistication.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In QED, inside an optical medium there are lots of charged particles, and the 
>>>>>>> interactions between these myriad particles and the photons retard the latters' 
>>>>>>> progress through the medium. In vacuum there are no charged particles to slow 
>>>>>>> down the photons, so once they have left the medium they travel at c. Continuity 
>>>>>>> of the field ensures that the properties of the light ray are the same after 
>>>>>>> exiting the medium as they were before entering it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tom Roberts
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Seto is going to complain that a physical theory should explain everything,
>>>>>> and that there shouldn’t be several different theories that cover different
>>>>>> domains of questions, because that makes brains hurt. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, if you have the correct physical theory you can indeed explain
>>>>> everything. So what is your problem?
>>>> 
>>>> Is this something you just decided should be true?
>>> 
>>> Idiot, that’s what “the theory of everything” mean.
>> 
>> And Ken, you probably are not aware that this whimsical term has the same
>> weight and value as Lederman’s “God particle”. Scientists should perhaps be
>> more careful when they use terms like “theory of everything” because there
>> are idiots like you who take that seriously. 
> 
> Idiot, the universe is not as complex as physicists make out to be. 

Unfortunately it is quite a bit more complicated than you want it to be. 
You want it to be intuitive to the common man, and do you pretend that it
is. 


> The reason why we are in such quandary is that the mathematicians took
> over for the development and they developed equations then they invented
> non-existing math objects such as virtual particles pop in and out of
> empty space, extra dimensions, length contraction, time dilation,
> spacetime and curvature in spacetime....etc to explain their equations.
> As you can see the mathematicians will never be able to find the theory
> of everything because they start out with the wrong assumptions: that the
> math objects that they invented will lead to the theory of everything.
> 
> I took the logical route to find the one physical theory of everything. I
> believe that God, the Creator, created one physical model of our universe
> that can explain all the processes, all the particles, all the forces and
> all the interactions of nature. All we need to do is to find this one
> physical model.  I used a new approach called the Pyramid Technique to
> find the physical TOE and I was successful and found the physical model
> of our universe called Model Mechanics. Chapter 2 of my book in the
> following link describes how the Pyramid Technique lead to the discovery
> of Model  Mechanics.
> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016
> 
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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  Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-02-25 15:09 -0800
  Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-02-26 07:15 +0000
    Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 14:09 +0000
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    Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 15:24 +0000
      Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-03 07:53 -0600
        Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Ický Bezdrátovì <ikbe@wmkfre.np> - 2018-03-03 14:05 +0000
        Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Ický Bezdrátovì <ikbe@wmkfre.np> - 2018-03-03 14:07 +0000
        Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 21:38 +0000
          Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-04 13:03 +0100
          Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-08 13:33 -0600
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                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-23 17:16 -0700
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            Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-12 07:30 -0700
              Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Térov Balónky <iytn@yeicenlw.ik> - 2018-03-12 14:34 +0000
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-14 07:07 -0700
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                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-12 21:14 +0000
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-14 08:50 -0700
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-14 18:01 +0000
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-14 11:30 -0700
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                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-14 12:42 -0700
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                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-14 14:11 -0700
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-14 21:27 +0000
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-14 21:31 +0000
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-14 22:17 -0700
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-15 11:53 +0000
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-15 06:06 -0700
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                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-15 11:53 +0000
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-15 06:08 -0700
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-15 14:57 +0000
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-15 12:07 -0700
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                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-15 07:09 -0700
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                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-16 07:06 -0700
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                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-16 16:36 +0000
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                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-16 21:34 -0700
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                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-17 16:18 +0000
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                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-17 12:05 -0700
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-17 19:11 +0000
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-17 12:35 -0700
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                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Térov Balónky <iytn@yeicenlw.ik> - 2018-03-18 12:44 +0000
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                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-15 17:13 +0000
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-13 06:14 -0700
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-13 14:06 +0000
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-14 08:53 -0700
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-14 18:01 +0000
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-15 07:13 -0700
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-15 15:06 +0000
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-15 15:03 -0700
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-15 15:25 -0700
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-15 17:10 -0700
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-16 07:09 -0700
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-13 17:19 -0500
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Térov Balónky <iytn@yeicenlw.ik> - 2018-03-13 22:51 +0000
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                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-03-13 16:00 -0700
                Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-14 09:00 -0700
        Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-04 06:10 -0800
      Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-03 15:08 +0100
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        Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-04 06:22 -0800
          Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-05 12:43 +0100
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    Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-12 13:31 -0700
  Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-03-15 16:01 -0700
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    Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Térov Balónky <iytn@yeicenlw.ik> - 2018-03-17 17:24 +0000
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      Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-03-17 21:20 +0100
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    Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-18 02:46 +0100
      Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-17 19:16 -0700
  Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Simon Roberts <retenshun@gmail.com> - 2018-03-18 06:39 -0700
    Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-18 07:30 -0700
      Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Simon Roberts <retenshun@gmail.com> - 2018-03-18 08:15 -0700
        Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Simon Roberts <retenshun@gmail.com> - 2018-03-18 08:20 -0700
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      Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? Simon Roberts <retenshun@gmail.com> - 2018-03-18 08:51 -0700
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      Re: Is time everywhere in the universe the same? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-03-19 07:20 -0700
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