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| From | HGW <HW@home.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. |
| Date | 2018-03-14 10:02 +1100 |
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On 14/03/18 03:35, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 3/9/18 4:32 PM, HGW wrote:
>>> You claim that for a repeatedly-pulsing light source whose position varies sinusoidally along its direction of
>>> emission, SR predicts "There will be no significant bunching or rarefaction in the pulse arrival rate." -- THIS
>>> IS WRONG. SR predicts QUITE CLEARLY that there will be Doppler shift, which applies to the frequency of the
>>> light in the pulses, to the wavelength of the light in the pulses, AND TO THE PULSE ARRIVAL RATE. Moreover, real
>>> experiments confirm all three parts of this prediction.
>>
>> Light does not have a 'frequency'.
>
> Hmmmm. This is one of the few things you have said that is true (though probably not in the sense you intend).
You have finally learned something from me. I am the first person in two hundred years to draw attention to one of
physics' most blatant misconceptions and point out that neither light nor a radio signal possesses a 'frequency's.
> The frequency we ascribe to a (monochromatic) light ray comes from a detector, and its value is not intrinsic to the
> light ray, but rather is due to the geometrical relationship between ray and detector. Detectors moving differently
> along the direction of the ray obtain different values (known as the Doppler effect).
This, of course, squashes Maxwell's equations, which claim that light is an oscillating disturbance in a dielectric medium..
> The Doppler shift also applies to instruments that measure the wavelength of the light ray.
No it doesn't... How the hell could it? The distance between 'wave crests' is absolute, as with water waves. The
measured 'frequency' is (c+v)/lambda, again not a property of the light itself.. Prisms and gratings are actually
sensitive to the arrival speed of the light as well as its wavelength.
>> You are actually referring to 'wave arrival rate' and 'pulse arrival rate'.
>
> You attempt to make a distinction without a difference. Those are merely other names for 'wave frequency' and 'pulse
> frequency'.
The distinction is very relevant. Your terms imply an intrinsic frequency when it obviously is not that at all. Having
said that, it has always been convenient to associate the word 'frequency' with radio and other similar signals because
that is what the receiver's filter must be tuned to.
>> If the above pulse arrival rate varies sinusoidally, as expected, then the arrival speed must also be varying and
>> so 'bunching' is occurring.
>
> Nope. For the physical situation being discussed (a repeatedly-pulsing light source whose position varies
> sinusoidally along its direction of emission), the pulse arrival rate varies sinusoidally, and there is "bunching"
> observed, but the speed of each pulse is c. The "bunching" is DUE TO THE MOTION OF THE SOURCE, nothing more -- as
> the source is moving toward the detector, successive pulses have LESS FAR TO TRAVEL, and thus the arrival rate of
> pulses is higher; as the source is moving away from the detector, successive pulses have FURTHER TO TRAVEL, and thus
> the arrival rate of pulses is lower.
That is conventional Doppler. We know all about that. Its magnitude is NOT distance dependent.
> If your claim were true, and the pulses moved with speed c+v (v = velocity of source along direction of emission),
> then the faster pulses could overtake the slower pulses, and the arrival rate would NOT vary sinusoidally. This
> depends strongly on the distance between source and detector.
>
> Let's do a numerical example -- something you avoid like the plague because it demonstrates how silly your claims
> actually are.
Tom I don't know whether you try to be funny sometimes or not but this is one of you best. I have spent twenty years
doing numerical examples of precisely the above situation with umpteen computer programs to assist. This is what
variable star analysis is all about.
> Consider a binary pulsar in a circular orbit with orbital speed 300 km/s (0.001 c) and distance to earth 21,000 ly
> (1.987E20 meters), pulses are emitted every 60 ms, and the orbital period is 7.7 hours, with sight line to earth in
> the plane of the orbit (these values are loosely comparable to PSR B1913+16).
>
> The slowest light travels at 0.999 c and takes 6.633E11 seconds to reach earth. The fastest light travels at 1.001 c
> and takes 6.620E11 seconds to reach earth. So from a single orbit lasting 7.7 hours, the light arrives at earth
> spread out over 42 YEARS. So on earth, at any given time we would see light from 525 million pulses, all mixed
> together. This would have no time structure at all and would not look anything like a pulsar -- it would be a
> constant broadband signal.
>
> Needless to say that is NOT what is observed.
It is not observed generally by light traveling through space because of the phenomenon I have labeled 'light speed
'unification'. All light moving in a similar direction TENDS TOWARD a common speed. Movement between pulses asymptotes
towards zero. This explains why fast light has never been observed to have overtaken slow light and why de Sitter's
arguments against ballistic light are decidedly wrong. Unification is not the same as 'extinction' but has a similar effect.
> Physics is a QUANTITATIVE science. When you refuse to consider numerical examples, you keep yourself ignorant of the
> implications of your FANTASIES.
My very sophisticated programs calculate all the quantities. You are mere beginner in this subject. You are talking like
a little kid.
>> The main question is, "how do the pulses 'know' that they have to depart from the source at cyclically varying
>> speeds?".
>
> Only in your fantasy world. In the world we inhabit, they all propagate at c relative to any inertial frame (not
> just the inertial frame of their source, as you fantasize). This is, of course, due to the geometrical relationships
> between relatively-moving frames, nothing more -- the pulses don't need to "know" anything, they just propagate at
> c.
OK, answer this.
Consider two lasers, one approaching the other at speed v. Nothing else exists. When adjacent they both emit a light
pulse into empty space. What determines the speed of the pulses (or your claimed common speed)? No observers or targets
are present.
> Tom Roberts
--
HGW
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Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-05 16:02 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-05 11:20 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-05 14:29 -0400
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-04-05 12:59 -0700
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Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-06 09:49 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-06 10:48 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-06 14:51 -0400
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 19:07 +0000
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-06 11:23 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 14:02 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-06 11:41 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-06 12:43 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-06 13:15 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 13:58 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-06 13:22 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 13:59 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-06 18:35 -0400
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-06 15:56 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-06 22:29 -0500
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-06 23:55 -0400
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 14:46 +0000
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-08 10:32 -0500
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-08 10:59 -0500
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 22:31 +0000
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 19:07 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-06 22:43 -0500
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-06 14:52 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-06 14:57 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 19:06 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-07 16:28 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-07 16:48 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 01:33 +0000
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-07 22:44 -0400
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Gaston Levell <jno@itwjwg.tn> - 2018-04-08 10:01 +0000
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-07 16:50 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-08 03:43 +0000
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 09:06 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 17:40 +0000
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Gaston Levell <jno@itwjwg.tn> - 2018-04-09 20:02 +0000
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 11:58 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-09 12:10 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Gaston Levell <jno@itwjwg.tn> - 2018-04-09 19:54 +0000
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-09 20:22 +0000
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 21:32 +0000
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 15:11 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 15:10 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 12:28 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 09:15 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 13:28 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. jms74@humboldt.edu - 2018-04-11 13:46 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 19:28 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 19:29 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 19:36 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-12 12:45 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-12 13:03 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-13 10:24 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-13 10:30 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-13 10:35 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-14 11:28 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-14 12:19 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-17 10:59 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-17 14:55 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-17 15:20 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 16:24 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-17 16:39 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 10:04 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 10:29 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 13:44 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 16:04 -0700
Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-19 11:10 -0700
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