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Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder.

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder.
Date 2018-03-10 22:13 +0000
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HGW <HW@home.net> writes:

>On 10/03/18 09:40, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> HGW <HW@home.net> writes:
>> 
>>> On 09/03/18 13:04, Tom Roberts wrote:
>>>> On 3/8/18 6:44 PM, Keith Stein wrote:
>>>>> Einstein was also wrong in that the speed of light relative to an observer is not, indeed could not possibly be,
>>>>> independent of the velocity of the OBSERVER eh!
>>>>
>>>> And yet it is OBSERVED to be so.
>> 
>>> It has never been observed to be so at all.

>> No Ralph, putting your fingers in your ears and saying "Not so! I can't
>> hear you!!  La la la la!!!" doesn't work.
>> 
>>>> For instance, the annual Doppler effect arises due to the observer being on the earth, which orbits the sun [#]. It has
>>>> been measured for both wavelength 𝛌 and frequency f: the product f𝛌, which corresponds to the (vacuum) phase speed of
>>>> the light, is found to be constant and equal to c.
>> 
>>> What an idiot! The only 'frequency' associated with light is defined as
>>> c/lambda. Naturally (c/lambda x lambda) will
>>> give the answer c.
>> 
>> No, Ralph, the wavelength can be measured directly with a diffraction
>> grating.  Scientists MEASURE the frequency, and they MEASURE the
>> wavelength, and when these are multiplied they ALWAYS get c. No
>> definitions like you mentioned are involved.

>How would an idiot shithouse cleaner know what scientists do?

I guess that's why you don't know what scientists do.  I didn't know you
finally got a job as a shithouse cleaner.

> No scientist has ever measured a 'frequency' of light.

Scientists measure frequencies all the time, Ralph. Including that of 
light.

>The term c/lambda quite obviously describes 'wave departure rate' from a 
>light source. It is not a property of anything, 

It is a property that depends on the reference frame, yes.

>It is just a reading of a rate at the source. Naturally if you multiply 
>that by lambda you will get c.

Multiply by the lambda at the source, yes.

And measure the frequency and lambda at the destination and multiply them
and you also get c.  Which is the point.

> Even a stinking 
>shithouse cleaner should be able to understand that.

So why do you have so much trouble understanding that, Ralph?

>>> And those agree with the Newtonian equation.
>> 
>> No, Ralph, they agree with the relativistic equation.

>Crap. The difference between the two has always ben too small to be 
>measurable.

Wrong, Ralph.  And besides, if your claim was true, your statement
"those agree with the Newtonian equation" would be meaningless since
you couldn't tell them apart.

>>>> Just making stuff up and pretending it is true is USELESS. You need to
>>>> STUDY basic physics.
>> 
>>> What do you know about basic physics? Very little judging from your
>>> posts here.
>> 
>>>> Tom Roberts
>> 
>> Ummm,   Ralph, do you know where Tom works?

>Tom knows nothing about physics. He hasn't a clue.

Well obviously you don't have a clue where Tom works. He probably loses
more physics knowledge every time he clips his fingernails than you have
ever learned during your entire life.

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The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-09 09:48 +1100
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-08 17:58 -0600
    Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-10 09:32 +1100
      Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-13 11:35 -0500
        Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-14 10:02 +1100
          Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-15 17:05 +0000
            Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-16 09:30 +1100
              Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-16 04:38 +0000
          Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-03-15 16:03 -0700
            Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-16 19:38 +1100
              Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-03-16 04:28 -0700
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-17 13:14 +1100
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-03-17 02:45 -0700
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-17 16:23 +0000
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-18 11:55 +1100
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-03-17 19:20 -0700
          Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-15 21:45 -0500
            Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-17 13:12 +1100
              Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-16 22:35 -0500
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-16 20:59 -0700
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-18 12:05 +1100
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 16:55 -0700
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-20 22:21 -0700
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-22 08:34 +1100
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-03-21 15:31 -0700
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-23 08:56 +1100
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 19:41 +0000
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-26 09:20 +1100
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-09 00:44 +0000
    Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-08 20:04 -0600
      Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-08 21:27 -0800
      Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Ernie Shackelford <iugtar@ttrwrta.oc> - 2018-03-09 10:50 +0000
      Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-10 09:21 +1100
        Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-09 22:40 +0000
          Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-03-09 15:04 -0800
          Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-10 19:51 +1100
            Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-10 22:13 +0000
              Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-11 09:42 +1100
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-10 22:51 +0000
      Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder.'a Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-10 12:03 +0000
        Re:'J'ai dube ' (pardon my French ' I ADJUST ') ...... The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder.'a Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-10 12:30 +0000
          Re: 'J'ai dube ' (pardon my French ' I ADJUST ') ...... The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder.'a Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-13 22:28 -0500
            Re: 'J'ai dube ' (pardon my French ' I ADJUST ') ...... The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder.'a HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-14 16:06 +1100
            Re: 'J'ai dube ' (pardon my French ' I ADJUST ') ...... The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder.'a John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-17 17:19 -0700
              Re: 'J'ai dube ' (pardon my French ' I ADJUST ') ...... The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder.'a Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-18 01:26 +0100
                Re: 'J'ai dube ' (pardon my French ' I ADJUST ') ...... The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder.'a John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-17 17:34 -0700
                Re: 'J'ai dube ' (pardon my French ' I ADJUST ') ...... The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder.'a John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-17 17:35 -0700
                Re: 'J'ai dube ' (pardon my French ' I ADJUST ') ...... The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder.'a Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-18 01:38 +0100
                Re: 'J'ai dube ' (pardon my French ' I ADJUST ') ...... The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder.'a John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-17 17:49 -0700
                Re: 'J'ai dube ' (pardon my French ' I ADJUST ') ...... The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder.'a Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-03-18 01:55 +0100
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  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-09 17:35 -0800
    Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-10 20:20 +1100
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        Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-12 10:03 +1100
          Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-03-11 19:29 -0400
            Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-12 12:03 +1100
              Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-03-11 21:43 -0400
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-03-11 22:20 -0700
                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-12 20:53 +1100
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                Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-03-13 09:13 +1100
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  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 15:49 +0000
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        Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-26 12:53 +0000
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    Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 14:02 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-06 11:41 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-06 12:43 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-06 13:15 -0700
    Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 13:58 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-06 13:22 -0700
    Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 13:59 -0700
      Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-06 18:35 -0400
        Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-06 15:56 -0700
        Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-06 22:29 -0500
          Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-06 23:55 -0400
            Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 14:46 +0000
              Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-08 10:32 -0500
            Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-08 10:59 -0500
    Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 22:31 +0000
      Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 19:07 -0700
      Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-06 22:43 -0500
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-06 14:52 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-06 14:57 -0700
    Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 19:06 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-07 16:28 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-07 16:48 -0700
    Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 01:33 +0000
      Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-07 22:44 -0400
        Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Gaston Levell <jno@itwjwg.tn> - 2018-04-08 10:01 +0000
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-07 16:50 -0700
    Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-08 03:43 +0000
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 09:06 -0700
    Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 17:40 +0000
      Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Gaston Levell <jno@itwjwg.tn> - 2018-04-09 20:02 +0000
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 11:58 -0700
    Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-09 12:10 -0700
      Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Gaston Levell <jno@itwjwg.tn> - 2018-04-09 19:54 +0000
        Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-09 20:22 +0000
          Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 21:32 +0000
        Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 15:11 -0700
    Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 15:10 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 12:28 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 09:15 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 13:28 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. jms74@humboldt.edu - 2018-04-11 13:46 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 19:28 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 19:29 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 19:36 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-12 12:45 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-12 13:03 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-13 10:24 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-13 10:30 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-13 10:35 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-14 11:28 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-14 12:19 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-17 10:59 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-17 14:55 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-17 15:20 -0700
    Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 16:24 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-17 16:39 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 10:04 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 10:29 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 13:44 -0700
  Re: The Experiment That Destroys SR and its Founder. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 16:04 -0700
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