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From djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Subject Re: Undeservedly famous
Message-ID <p7G8GD.24LG@kithrup.com> (permalink)
Date 2018-04-19 20:19 +0000
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In article <q8rhdd1t2r1n37js31bsnt9pmu3fqssr37@4ax.com>,
Gene Wirchenko  <genew@telus.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:31:59 -0400, J. Clarke
><jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>Apparently Terry's never seen PhD engineers struggling to learn how to
>>use a PC.  It's easy if you know how to do it, if you don't it isn't.
>>I'm going through a lot of that now--the people I work with have been
>>in financial services for 20+ years, I've been in it for 3.  They have
>>difficulty understanding why I don't see certain things as being
>>obvious.
>
>     I had to figure out for myself how to double-click a mouse.

Oh, I can top that.

When the Mac was just about to be released, I was working for the
UCB Computer Center, helping edit a monthly newsletter.  We used
UNIX software (n/troff, -ms, eqn, and tbl, all fairly hairy, but
I had people physically present to teach them to me :) ).  So
when Apple offered us a pre-release Mac to test out, I
volunteered.

I couldn't make it do anything, so I brought Hal in.  He couldn't
make it speak either.  We saw icons on the desktop, but couldn't
open them.  We read all the documentation from cover to cover and
still couldn't figure it out.

Quite by accident, Hal double-clicked on something and it opened.

Whoever had written the documentation had been using the Mac in
its various stages of development for so long, s/he hadn't
*realized* s/he hadn't mentioned "to open a program, double-click
on the icon."

So now I knew that, so I played around with the thing for a while
and sent in a report.  By the time the Mac actually launched, the
documentation did mention double-clicking. 


-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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