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From djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Subject Re: Undeservedly famous
Message-ID <p796v2.17sK@kithrup.com> (permalink)
Date 2018-04-16 01:01 +0000
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In article <0001HW.2084217103ABDA0C70000942D2CF@news.supernews.com>,
Wolffan  <akwolffan@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 15 Apr 2018, Dorothy J Heydt wrote
>(in article <p78z9r.soD@kithrup.com>):
>
>> In article<33ef01e6-ac93-4eb6-b1b2-9f0a078bfb3f@googlegroups.com>,
>> Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com>  wrote:
>> > On Sunday, 15 April 2018 22:04:25 UTC+1, David Johnston wrote:
>> > > On 2018-04-15 2:20 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> > > > In article<fjhhmmFtm4aU2@mid.individual.net>,
>> > > > Ted Nolan <tednolan>  <tednolan>  wrote:
>> > > > > In article<pavole$1n1b$3@gioia.aioe.org>,
>> > > > > David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com>  wrote:
>> > > > > > On 2018-04-15 6:13 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> > > > > > > On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 01:49:37 -0500, David DeLaney
>> > > > > > > <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>  wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On 2018-04-15, David Johnston<davidjohnston29@yahoo.com>  wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > On 2018-04-14 8:49 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > And it seems we are heading in that direction, with
>bigger and
>> > > > > > > > > > bigger
>> > > > > > > > > > televisions with more and more channels of crappier
>and crappier
>> > > > > > > > > > entertainment, and loss of interest in reading.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > *bullshit*. There is no loss of interest in reading.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Agreed; people just are doing it on their phones now, rather
>> > than in paper
>> > > > > > > > books, newspapers, and magazines.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Dave, the which have declining circulation, yes
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Do you have statistics? And do you include newspapers and
>magazines?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/09/01/book-reading-2016/
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I find it curious that so many (in their survey) still prefer
>> > print. Despite
>> > > > > being a tech troglodyte in many respects, I never looked back
>once I got
>> > > > > my
>> > > > > kindle. The only stuff I buy in paper now is comic books/comic strip
>> > > > > collections and reference books.
>> > > >
>> > > > I don't trust Kindle books not to evaporate suddenly because
>> > > > Amazon felt like it.
>> > >
>> > > ...don't synch your Kindle. That's all it takes. Even if Amazon had
>> > > done that, to one of my books it wouldn't make any different at all
>> > > because I don't synch my Kindle.
>> >
>> > Until your Kindle breaks. Then you can buy another Kindle and
>> > get back books that Amazon says you can get back, I guess.
>>
>> Is there no way of backing books off the Kindle onto a PC or
>> something and thence onto a CD or something?
>
>Certainly. Amazon will drop Kindle books onto a desktop or laptop, but 
>they’ll have DRM, you can’t read them without Kindle software. You can 
>back them up to a CD, but they’re still useless without Kindle software. If 
>de-DRMed and dropped into calibre or similar, you can do anything you want 
>with them. I usually de-DRM them, convert them to EPUBs, and feed them to 
>Marvin.
>

I would probably inquire how you de-DRM things, if I knew of
anything available only from Kindle that I wanted to read.  I do
have Calibre, but while I can read things in it, all the other
things it can supposedly do (edit, e.g.) are a blank to me.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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