Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name?

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From	djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Subject	Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name?
Message-ID	<p1MwpB.1Cv7@kithrup.com> (permalink)
Date	2017-12-27 19:27 +0000
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In article <2bf08068-6407-41b9-b72d-d5e7e6306d53@googlegroups.com>,
Kevrob  <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 12:00:06 PM UTC-5, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <7a05ff30-8255-4739-b2e8-837b87a13b45@googlegroups.com>,
>> Kevrob  <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> >On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 2:20:28 AM UTC-5, Ted Nolan
><tednolan> wrote:
>> >> In article <20171226a@crcomp.net>, D B Davis  <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >Are there any male or married couples who write SF under a female pen
>> >> >name? Something along the lines of a Louise Padgett or a sfnal Tania
>> >> >Carver?
>> >> >
>> >> >Thank you,
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Don
>> >> 
>> >> Ilona
>> >
>> >It's a thing in crime fiction.
>> 
>> And there are, I believe, a number of guys who write romances
>> under female names -- because otherwise the (99% female) readers
>> wouldn't read them.  Bill Quick was one of these, I believe.
>> He used to post to rec.arts.writing, and perhaps still does (I
>> haven't looked at it in a long time).
>
>It was my understanding, going back to the last years of the 70s
>and for most of the 80s, when I worked in a large B Dalton in a
>shopping mall, that it was ever so.  There were probably men
>writing "romance fiction" for the love pulps in the first half of
>the 20th century.  One of the staff members, a suburban housewife 
>who worked part-time, was in charge of our romance section.  I would 
>have to sub for her when she took vacations, since one of my jobs
>was "receiving clerk" and the two of us were the only ones who could
>be trusted with rotating the Harlequin (UKish: Mills & Boone) stock,
>and competing lines with similar release schedules, in the approved
>manner to maximize sales and return credits.  It was more like stocking
>a magazine rack than a bookshelf.  
>
>Harlequin tried to sell SF the same way, as Laser Books, 
>which long-time readers of the group are doubtless familiar
>with.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_Books
>
>When our stores "queen of Romance" came back from a luncheon
>she had been invited to by one of the publishers, due to the 
>excellent romance sell-through at our store, she clued me in
>that so-and-so was actually male.  They had several of their
>popular authors at the event, much like a con.
>
>And, oh, yes, romance fans have cons.
>
>http://www.romancerefined.com/list-of-romance-conventions-and-conferences.html

Here's a review of a murder mystery set at one.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/66506.Die_for_Love

Way out of print, but Amazon probably has some copies at $0.01
plus s/h.
>
>....

>> On a slightli divergent note, I saw _Jumanji_ last night, and
>> it's a hoot.  You all probably know already that it's four
>> candidates for the Breakfast Club turned into avatars in a video
>> game, giving four actors marvelous opportunities to act like what
>> they don't look like.
>> 
>
>One actor I noticed in the cast was Karen Gillan.  How could I
>not notice "the Legs" in those shorts?!  Did the presence of "Amy 
>Pond" influence your choice of movie?

Not directly, but I did see a photo online of the four avatars
and said "Wait a minute, I know that face."  Now, the idea of her
avatar being a kick-ass martial artist isn't all that far removed
from Amy Pond -- but the shy self-deprecating wimp she started
out being, was.
>
>> But the thing that struck me was that the NPCs all act like NPCs;
>> what they can say and do is limited to their scripts.
>> 
>> Excellent CGI, too; there were a lot of jaguars in the final
>> scenes and, since I refuse to believe that the studio let real
>> jaguars attack elephants and humans (and get trashed for doing
>> so), somebody worked hard on the CGI jaguars.  We were wondering
>> on the way home how you'd past ping-pong balls all over a jaguar.
>> Perhaps the computer was simply given a map of every spot on the
>> real jaguar's hide?
>
>Sometimes it is best not to look behind the curtain?

Depends on what you want to see.  I like knowing how the special
effects were done.  Back when we had some money to spend, Hal and
I subscribed to _American Cinematographer_, which did a lot of
making-of articles.  When the Star Wars films started coming out,
there were a lot of making-of specials on television, which we
taped and watched over and over.

And it came in handy when my kids (nine and ten at the time) and
I saw _Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom_.  They started
getting scared, but when I said, "Wow, what cool special effects,
how do you suppose they did that?" they got into1 "it's just a
movie" mode and appreciated the special effects.



-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-27 06:56 +0000
  Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2017-12-27 07:20 +0000
    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-12-27 03:05 -0800
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2017-12-27 08:05 -0800
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-12-27 12:57 -0500
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-27 16:32 +0000
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-12-27 10:17 -0800
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-27 19:27 +0000
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-01-01 04:39 -0700
            Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-01-01 07:54 -0500
            Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-01-01 05:11 -0800
              Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-01-01 18:23 +0000
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-01-01 13:12 -0800
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-01-02 21:08 +0000
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-01-02 13:20 -0800
            Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-01 16:04 +0000
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Default User <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> - 2017-12-28 09:08 -0800
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2017-12-28 17:11 +0000
    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-27 14:09 +0000
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2017-12-27 14:27 +0000
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2017-12-27 07:41 -0800
  Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? banjo@dontspam.silent.com - 2017-12-27 12:36 +0000
    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-27 14:10 +0000
  Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2017-12-27 06:08 -0800
    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2017-12-27 07:47 -0800
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-27 16:44 +0000
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2017-12-27 09:43 -0800
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-12-27 10:26 -0800
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-29 09:37 -0600
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2017-12-27 09:24 -0800
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-29 09:34 -0600
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-12-29 21:00 -0600
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-30 03:23 -0600
            Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 12:13 -0600
              Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-01-04 10:27 -0800
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 12:55 -0600
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 11:00 -0700
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 13:08 -0600
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-01-04 12:18 -0800
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 13:06 -0700
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-04 23:27 +0000
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 15:51 -0700
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 18:08 -0600
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 16:41 -0700
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-01-04 16:18 -0800
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-01-04 16:36 -0800
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-01-04 16:52 -0800
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-05 08:10 -0700
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Bernard Peek <bap@shrdlu.com> - 2018-01-07 13:25 +0000
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-05 00:01 +0000
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 16:43 -0700
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-05 02:11 +0000
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-05 03:58 +0000
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-05 05:56 +0000
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-05 06:42 +0000
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-05 15:55 +0000
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-05 08:18 -0700
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-01-05 19:17 -0600
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 18:59 -0500
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-04 23:23 +0000
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 18:57 -0500
              Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 10:56 -0700
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-01-04 12:16 -0800
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 13:03 -0700
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-04 23:22 +0000
              Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-04 23:20 +0000
  Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2017-12-27 07:59 -0800
    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Wolffan <aklwolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-12-27 16:35 -0500
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2017-12-27 14:03 -0800
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2017-12-28 05:42 -0800
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2017-12-27 15:15 -0700
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-12-27 23:28 +0000
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-28 01:02 +0000
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-12-28 11:43 -0800
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-28 21:33 +0000
            Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2017-12-28 16:09 -0800
            Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2017-12-29 14:27 -0800
              Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-29 23:14 +0000
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Wolffan <aklwolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-12-29 20:18 -0500
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Wolffan <aklwolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-12-31 20:56 -0500
                Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-01 02:16 +0000
  Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2017-12-27 23:12 +0000
    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2017-12-27 16:12 -0800
  Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-27 18:57 -0800
    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-12-27 19:28 -0800
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-28 05:03 +0000
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-12-28 06:19 +0000
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Default User <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> - 2017-12-28 09:32 -0800
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-01-03 11:48 -0800
          Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-01-03 11:53 -0800
      Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-01-02 07:18 -0700
        Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-01-02 09:04 -0800
    Re: Male or married author(s) with a female pen name? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-01-02 07:17 -0700

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