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Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow?

From	moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow?
Date	2017-09-22 22:56 +0000
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HGW <HW@home.net> writes:

>On 22/09/17 22:13, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> HGW <HW@home.net> writes:

No answer to this, Ralph?

>>>> Or is all you can do is insult me, Henry?

>>>Oh! Are you ashamed of your country shithouse?

>>Are you ashamed of your own name, Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge, so ashamed of
>>your name (which is Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge, not Henry Wilson) that you
>>edit what I write to change it to something I didn't write, Ralph?

>>> Poor idiot! I really feel sorry for you. The rods did not emit the
>>> flashes. I presume there was high enough voltage between them to cause a
>>> spark as they passed.
>> 
>> Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge, this is a gedanken, so it can reference idealized
>> things such as trains moving at 0.8c and ideal physics events that take
>> no time to happen.  I never mentioned high voltage or any other
>> mechanism for the flash to take place. It is an ideal event, which takes
>> zero time to happen, Ralph.  The event is the contact of the two rods,
>> Ralph.
>> 
>>> In that case, light from the flashes will have a range of speeds in all
>>> directions and any difference between its arrival times at the two
>>> observers will be much smaller that the error bars.
>> 
>> Did you think this out at all, Ralph?  Do you realize what the combination
>> of this statement with DirtyBaThWater would mean in this gedanken? You'll
>> have some molecules stationary with respect to the embankment, some
>> stationary with respect to the train and everything in between. So M will
>> see some photons arriving from the front of the train at c, and some at
>> c-v and every speed in between. Meanwhile, M' will see some photons
>> arriving from the front of the train at c, and some at c+v and every speed
>> in between, Ralph!

>THat what I said, idiot! Can't you read?

So Ralph, that means the track observer first sees a flash from the photons
from the rear of the train moving toward him at c+v, then sees a flash from
both ends from the photons from both ends moving at c, then a flash from the
photons from the front, moving at c-v?  3 flashes? Wow, Ralph, DirtyBaThWater
is more bizarre than I thought!

Or if the molecules have a range of speeds, the track observer first sees
light come from the rear as the c+v photons arrive, the light stays on
(not a flash) while slower photons arrive and at the instant the photons
moving at c arrive, the light from the rear goes out at the exact instant 
light from the front starts arriving (both moving at c), then light from the
front only comes as slower photons arrive, then goes out once the c-v photons
arrive?  Not flashes but the light remains on for a length of time? Either way,
truly bizarre, Ralph!

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