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Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow?

From	moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow?
Date	2017-09-22 12:13 +0000
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HGW <HW@home.net> writes:
>On 22/09/17 09:00, Michael Moroney wrote:

>> Or is all you can do is insult me, Henry?

>Oh! Are you ashamed of your country shithouse?

Are you ashamed of your own name, Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge, so ashamed of
your name (which is Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge, not Henry Wilson) that you
edit what I write to change it to something I didn't write, Ralph?

(it's amusing that you even change insults such as "Ralph Rabbidge, you
are an idiot!" to "Henry Wilson, you are an idiot!")

And no, don't try to project your fascination with shithouses onto me,
Ralph Rabbidge!)

>>> Never mind.  You refuse to come up with an answer of what the velocity of
>>> the source of the flashes is.  All you can do is deflect and insult,
>>> Ralph.  Ralph, as we know you believe in failed DirtyBaThWater with its
>>> failed c+v, when the observers M and M' see the flashes allegedly arriving
>>> at c+v, Ralph, what is the speed of the light from the flashes as measured
>>> by M and M'?
>> 
>>> Remember, Ralph, the flashes are caused by the rods at the ends of the
>>> train striking rods on the embankment.
>> 
>> Ralph, you keep writing stuff like this:
>> 
>>> You have to know what the sources are and how fast they are moving in
>>> your frame. The train Gedanken is a deliberate ploy to fool people into
>>> believing Einstein had a theory. didn't specify whether the light
>>> reaching the observers came from sources at rest with the ground or the train.
>> 
>> So Ralph, in my example of the flashes being caused by the contact of the
>> train's rod with the embankment rod, I have told you what the sources of
>> the events are.  How fast are the sources moving in the train and embankment
>> frames, and give a reason for answer.

>Poor idiot! I really feel sorry for you. The rods did not emit the 
>flashes. I presume there was high enough voltage between them to cause a 
>spark as they passed.

Ralph Malcolm Rabbidge, this is a gedanken, so it can reference idealied
things such as trains moving at 0.8c and ideal physics events that take
no time to happen.  I never mentioned high voltage or any other
mechanism for the flash to take place. It is an ideal event, which takes
zero time to happen, Ralph.  The event is the contact of the two rods, 
Ralph.

> In that case, light from the flashes will have a range of speeds in all 
>directions and any difference between its arrival times at the two 
>observers will be much smaller that the error bars.

Did you think this out at all, Ralph?  Do you realize what the combination
of this statement with DirtyBaThWater would mean in this gedanken? You'll
have some molecules stationary with respect to the embankment, some
stationary with respect to the train and everything in between. So M will
see some photons arriving from the front of the train at c, and some at
c-v and every speed in between. Meanwhile, M' will see some photons
arriving from the front of the train at c, and some at c+v and every speed
in between, Ralph!

Ralph Rabbidge, so now tell us what the observers see, according to
DirtyBaThWater!

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