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Re: The flaws of SR

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The flaws of SR
Date 2017-09-11 08:39 -0500
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On 9/9/17 9:50 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 12:36:41 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 9/8/17 9:59 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 9:35:33 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 9/8/17 8:09 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 4:50:36 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/7/17 9:04 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 10:03:10 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/6/17 8:58 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 5:10:25 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/17 10:19 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 9:48:16 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/3/17 10:08 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 1:03:40 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/17 11:39 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 5:50:03 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/31/17 4:30 PM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The flaws of SR:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Constant light speed in all inertial frames. By definition the speed of anything is observer dependent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no such definition of speed in physics that requires that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speed of anything is observer dependent. The speed of SOME things is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observer dependent, but not everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The speed of anything is observer dependent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s simply not true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s true in our universe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Assertion is not an argument.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...if you think that’s not so please give us some examples of anything that is not observer dependent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The speed of light is not observer dependent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The speed of light is not observer dependent because physicists redefine the meter to be:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 meter=1/299,792458 light-seconds
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Check your history. This redefinition happened a few decades AFTER the
>>>>>>>>>>>> speed of light was determined experimentally to be observer independent.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think the observer-independence of light speed will suddenly
>>>>>>>>>>>> change sometime after the redefinition of the meter?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So why is there a need t redefine the meter? The OWLS never been measured directly......so you are a lying sack of shit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The observer-independence of the speed of light is firmly determined by
>>>>>>>>>> a combination of TWLS measurements and isotropy experiments. Though you
>>>>>>>>>> would DESIRE a OWLS measurement, it is completely unnecessary, given the
>>>>>>>>>> constraints already obtained from the other measurements. What you
>>>>>>>>>> DESIRE is not needed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope TWLS isotropy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Two. Separate. Experimental. Results.
>>>>>>>> Result one: Measurement of TWLS.
>>>>>>>> Result two: Isotropy of light speed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope....TWLS is based on the average of different one-way light speed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ISOTROPY experiment proves that you cannot have two different
>>>>>> one-way light speeds! That's the whole fucking point about isotropy
>>>>>> measurements.
>>>>>
>>>>> The whole fucking points are:
>>>>> 1. TWLS isotropy is based on the average of different one-way light speed.
>>>>
>>>> No, it is not. That is algebraically impossible, given the isotropy of
>>>> the speed of light.
>>>>
>>>>> 2. OWLS isotropy in the lab cannot be assumed by measuring phase shift or doppler shift measurements in short distances in the lab. Why? Because phase or doppler shifts is affected by large distances due to the inverse square law.
>>>>
>>>> If you disbelieve that light speed isotropy has been established in
>>>> experiment, you can write to the experimenters and tell them what they
>>>> did wrong.
>>>>
>>>> I believe that light speed isotropy has been firmly experimentally
>>>> established. No one owes it to you to convince you this is in fact the
>>>> case. You can choose to disbelieve anything your heart desires.
>>>> Meanwhile physicists know that light speed isotropy has been
>>>> experimentally established, period.
>>>
>>> Moron, I told you that the current one-way isotropy measurement in the lab is not valid for large distances due to the inverse square law.
>>
>> Go ahead and explain that to the physicists who performed the
>> experiments. I’m sure they'll have a good laugh.
> 
> Moron woodworker.....my argument is based on the well known experimentally verified: The Inverse Square Law.

Inverse square law has no bearing on transmission speed. None.

The inverse square law applies to sound too, say from a firecracker or a 
thunderclap. Do you really think the speed of sound diminishes with the 
square of the distance?

> 
>>
>> You have the native-born right to disbelieve anything you choose. Some
>> of those choices will be idiotic, but does not detract from your right
>> to be an idiot. No one will try to convince you to believe anything you
>> don't want to believe.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 3. BTW that’s why you need to measure OWLS directly to determine the constancy and isotropy of OWLS. Physicists know that such measurements will refute the P2 and that’s why they refuse to make any such direct measurements.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Light speed from A to B is the same as light speed from B to A. That's
>>>>>> what isotropy MEANS, you idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.....that’s your naive and wrong assumption. It appears that you are the idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: The flaws of SR Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-12 18:06 -0500
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                Re: The flaws of SR Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-12 09:02 -0500
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